Wheelie School!
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10-18-2005 | 02:57 AM
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well for me 1st gear is the only way my 250 will ever do a wheelie! lol. Anyways what i do is just roll along at 5- 10 mph. I then use the clutch method, everyday i try a few hundred more RPM and see how much better the wheelie gets. Just start of slow and work your way up until you get comfy. Right now I am popping it at about 7,300 - 7500RPM and getting about 2ft off the ground. For bigger bikes 7,000 would probably put way up in the air. Anyways I'll work my way up the RPM range until i get a desired wheelie. Thats just what i do, it feels safe and i dont feel like i am going to wreck it.
I disagree with the 40-45 for a new guy, granted you have less torque, but if he did bring it over to far it will hurt alot more
I disagree with the 40-45 for a new guy, granted you have less torque, but if he did bring it over to far it will hurt alot more
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10-18-2005 | 05:41 AM
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Well forget whellie school in my area. The site no longer exsits. here is what it was if you ever heard of it. www.starboyz.net/
Well forget whellie school in my area. The site no longer exsits. here is what it was if you ever heard of it. www.starboyz.net/
Talked to one of the guys that got it well that day and he returned the following day with his own bike and there was only 4 other guys there. He said he got about 100 runs in that day with no mishaps and he was tired as hell. Also said he was shifting through his wheelie and ridding them about 1/8 of a mile. Cool.
I think I will go again to learn the balance point better. Any time you wheelie whether it is a slow clutch up or 2nd gear power you are running a risk. The school at least puts you in a safer environment.
All those out there who do wheelie my hat is off to you brothers and sisters, it is not as easy as it looks.
Ride safe, Mike
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11-02-2005 | 05:56 AM
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Ha I just noticed this got moved to the stunters section. We need some real stunters to post here. I am going to get dogged with my beginner wheelie class pics. lol Guess you have to start some where.
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11-02-2005 | 11:50 AM
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whoa i would LOVE to go to a stunter school! i live in canada, about an hour away from toronto. so as i've said before my season is over. those pix were sweet and the idea of having a bike rigged like that is awesome. i just got my bike in july (first bike) and i like clutch wheelies myself, they are easier to gauge on the power...for me anyway. almost ended up on my a$$ bringin her up under power. my clutch is weak so i can't even bounce a 2nd gear standup anymore trying stoppies too, small ones so far. but wheeling out of them
lots of fun. i think you did an awesome job wheeling...keep it up!!! way up!!!
trying stoppies too, small ones so far. but wheeling out of them lots of fun. i think you did an awesome job wheeling...keep it up!!! way up!!!
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11-02-2005 | 11:53 AM
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shoot almost forgot, this is where i got some info on wheeling and stuff.
www.superstreetbike.com go to the how to section, or wheelies explained or something like that. guys are NUTS!!
www.superstreetbike.com go to the how to section, or wheelies explained or something like that. guys are NUTS!!
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11-16-2005 | 09:48 PM
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sheesh! i almost looped my bike last weekend. must have gotten close to the balance point because it felt like i was goin over. luckily i let off and the front end came down, hard, but atleast it came down
i was wondering what they told you about getting to the balance point or riding a long wheelie. i will be sure to ALWAYS cover my back brake after that close call.
i was wondering what they told you about getting to the balance point or riding a long wheelie. i will be sure to ALWAYS cover my back brake after that close call.
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11-16-2005 | 10:59 PM
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A warning this is gonna be long, so gear up.....LOL.....
Superstreetbike had a good wheelie explanation and i do agree with him totally...if your gonna try ridin wheelies first and formost make sure that you understand you might drop your bike.....if you use your bike for everyday things or you cant afford to get it fixed....DONT DO WHEELIES or any other stunts.....If you are a risk taker and are not afraid of it then give it a try.....do not go into a wheelie thinkin about dropping it or panicing because you have a split second decision sometimes that is more of a reaction then a thought....if you panic it's over......As for doing them i think that the sit down is actually harder then the stand up on a 6 simply because you need a ton of throttle, clutched or not.....my explanation is slightly different tho and i recommend not doing the power wheelies, to much torque....next, use 2nd, unless you have a 250, your bike will come up in second..i promise...
Sit-downs..
Doing sit downs on a 1000 is pretty easy..on a 600 you will have to fight that sucker unless you have some decent mods....start in second gear, give your bike a good amount of throttle and watch your rpms....see where your powerband kicks and that is the point where you need to start....if your pb kicks at 6 start at about 5.5 and work up every .5 rpm(i will explain later)....shift your weight to the back of your seat and grip the tank with your thighs, get to where you can let go of the bars without falling foward.....next get a tight grip and rev to your pb point.....use two fingers and, w/o decreasing throttle, pull your clutch in about a 1/4 to 1/2 a squeeze, depending on your clutch, and gas it tough....if you have a 1000 you dont need much, just a flick of the wrist, a 6 will need almost all of it.....let your fingers slip of the clutch so it pops back and feel the front come up, it will be smooth....as you come up listen to your throttle and as your floating, SLOWLY, give it a little more juice.....if you feel it's up high enough or it's starting to get shaky you can lean your body weight to your wrists, tap the rear brake or let your thorttle in a bit....if you get the feeling that you are going to be slung backwards, it's because your weight is not on the back of your seat......now, if your not coming up that well try increasing your start point by about .5 rpms and go up from there......with sit-downs or stand-ups dont ever look at the speedo or rpms, they will mess you up, feel the bike and listen to her, just like with your lover, you will learn her sounds and with that she will tell you how to do it....
Stand-ups
to me this is easier because the bike comes up better, but it does take a bit more experience and less panic.....start the same but instead of shifting your weight to the back start by putting your feet on the back pegs while riding...raise up off the seat and put all of your weight on the back of your legs.....FEEL THE BURN..LOL....anyway, get a good positioning and make sure you are balanced and not leaning<~~~very important.....next, rev up to about 1000 less then your pb kick and do the same as a sit down.....two fingers pull , throttle it and pop the clutch...now you dont need as much throttle with the stand up so start off slow and work up.....when you do stand ups you will notice that the front doesnt come up as softly and actually its more like a jerk up....it's normal tho and supposed to feel that way.....again, if you feel like your gonna fly back its because of your weight distribution, you need to practice starting with your weight soley on your legs......Now, once you come up you just need to control the throttle to stay leveled or variate your height....once you get up high enough you can slowly stand up and lean back but remember to keep your weight evenly distributed on both of your back pegs, this determines your side-to-side balance....now with the stand up you cant use your back brake because your foot is on the back peg so you need to be comfortable with your throttle...remember that you are standing and to lean forward, unconsciously, you will pull your arms and this will pull the bike back... so to come down you will use your throttle.....now wipe-outs or screw-ups.....all you need to know about this is first and formost....NEVER EVER EVER use your front brake, in the air or as you come down, you will go over your bars, next what ever happens, to a certain point, can be fixed by simply loosening the throttle..... if you sway or start to come down at a lean, just keep the wheel straight and it will straighten by itself....do not try and adjust, you will wobble and die!!!!! If all else fails and you are going to eat it....let go, it's just a bike, you will be able to fix it and if not, well, at least it didnt land on you.....also, take your time...give it a few runs and stop for the day...doing it over and over will exhaust you, and your legs(you will find out soon) and your muscles and reaction time will be hampered.....hope you guys find the article useful and be safe, always where gear when stunting and focus, dont show off......well at least until you get the hang of it.....LOL
(intercom static)....this is wingman signing off....(intercom static)
Superstreetbike had a good wheelie explanation and i do agree with him totally...if your gonna try ridin wheelies first and formost make sure that you understand you might drop your bike.....if you use your bike for everyday things or you cant afford to get it fixed....DONT DO WHEELIES or any other stunts.....If you are a risk taker and are not afraid of it then give it a try.....do not go into a wheelie thinkin about dropping it or panicing because you have a split second decision sometimes that is more of a reaction then a thought....if you panic it's over......As for doing them i think that the sit down is actually harder then the stand up on a 6 simply because you need a ton of throttle, clutched or not.....my explanation is slightly different tho and i recommend not doing the power wheelies, to much torque....next, use 2nd, unless you have a 250, your bike will come up in second..i promise...
Sit-downs..
Doing sit downs on a 1000 is pretty easy..on a 600 you will have to fight that sucker unless you have some decent mods....start in second gear, give your bike a good amount of throttle and watch your rpms....see where your powerband kicks and that is the point where you need to start....if your pb kicks at 6 start at about 5.5 and work up every .5 rpm(i will explain later)....shift your weight to the back of your seat and grip the tank with your thighs, get to where you can let go of the bars without falling foward.....next get a tight grip and rev to your pb point.....use two fingers and, w/o decreasing throttle, pull your clutch in about a 1/4 to 1/2 a squeeze, depending on your clutch, and gas it tough....if you have a 1000 you dont need much, just a flick of the wrist, a 6 will need almost all of it.....let your fingers slip of the clutch so it pops back and feel the front come up, it will be smooth....as you come up listen to your throttle and as your floating, SLOWLY, give it a little more juice.....if you feel it's up high enough or it's starting to get shaky you can lean your body weight to your wrists, tap the rear brake or let your thorttle in a bit....if you get the feeling that you are going to be slung backwards, it's because your weight is not on the back of your seat......now, if your not coming up that well try increasing your start point by about .5 rpms and go up from there......with sit-downs or stand-ups dont ever look at the speedo or rpms, they will mess you up, feel the bike and listen to her, just like with your lover, you will learn her sounds and with that she will tell you how to do it....
Stand-ups
to me this is easier because the bike comes up better, but it does take a bit more experience and less panic.....start the same but instead of shifting your weight to the back start by putting your feet on the back pegs while riding...raise up off the seat and put all of your weight on the back of your legs.....FEEL THE BURN..LOL....anyway, get a good positioning and make sure you are balanced and not leaning<~~~very important.....next, rev up to about 1000 less then your pb kick and do the same as a sit down.....two fingers pull , throttle it and pop the clutch...now you dont need as much throttle with the stand up so start off slow and work up.....when you do stand ups you will notice that the front doesnt come up as softly and actually its more like a jerk up....it's normal tho and supposed to feel that way.....again, if you feel like your gonna fly back its because of your weight distribution, you need to practice starting with your weight soley on your legs......Now, once you come up you just need to control the throttle to stay leveled or variate your height....once you get up high enough you can slowly stand up and lean back but remember to keep your weight evenly distributed on both of your back pegs, this determines your side-to-side balance....now with the stand up you cant use your back brake because your foot is on the back peg so you need to be comfortable with your throttle...remember that you are standing and to lean forward, unconsciously, you will pull your arms and this will pull the bike back... so to come down you will use your throttle.....now wipe-outs or screw-ups.....all you need to know about this is first and formost....NEVER EVER EVER use your front brake, in the air or as you come down, you will go over your bars, next what ever happens, to a certain point, can be fixed by simply loosening the throttle..... if you sway or start to come down at a lean, just keep the wheel straight and it will straighten by itself....do not try and adjust, you will wobble and die!!!!! If all else fails and you are going to eat it....let go, it's just a bike, you will be able to fix it and if not, well, at least it didnt land on you.....also, take your time...give it a few runs and stop for the day...doing it over and over will exhaust you, and your legs(you will find out soon) and your muscles and reaction time will be hampered.....hope you guys find the article useful and be safe, always where gear when stunting and focus, dont show off......well at least until you get the hang of it.....LOL
(intercom static)....this is wingman signing off....(intercom static)
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11-18-2005 | 11:57 AM
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whoa, that is quite a message thanx for replying. sounds crazy doin the standups on both back pegs. i don't think i'll be trying that one too soon. make sure i'm wearin my suit when i do!! thanx again, muchly appreciated.
thanx for replying. sounds crazy doin the standups on both back pegs. i don't think i'll be trying that one too soon. make sure i'm wearin my suit when i do!! thanx again, muchly appreciated.