06 zzr600 wheelie
#31
RE: 06 zzr600 wheelie
depends on how good you are, really!! lol
a loop will not take the abuse. its good for low weight, and protection if you rarely drop your bike, but if you're just starting out, a full cage distributes the shock load way more evenly thru the rest of the cage and components.
i found that bikes usually go down in circle wheelies, and stoppies gone awry...
if you drop a circle, its normlly not very hard. a single loop would probably take 3 hits or so from a hard drop. (maybe more) a full cage, hell i've seen bikes get looped at 30-50 mph and SLAM into the ground, and the cage is maybe a lil bent, but fine and straight enough to remove for repair if necessary.
a buddy of mine hit a car at 75mph last summer, the cage was tweaked, but almost fine!! the bike was COMPLETELY mangled tho.. but still, i was amazed. it held so well it ripped the motor mount off the frame..
a loop will not take the abuse. its good for low weight, and protection if you rarely drop your bike, but if you're just starting out, a full cage distributes the shock load way more evenly thru the rest of the cage and components.
i found that bikes usually go down in circle wheelies, and stoppies gone awry...
if you drop a circle, its normlly not very hard. a single loop would probably take 3 hits or so from a hard drop. (maybe more) a full cage, hell i've seen bikes get looped at 30-50 mph and SLAM into the ground, and the cage is maybe a lil bent, but fine and straight enough to remove for repair if necessary.
a buddy of mine hit a car at 75mph last summer, the cage was tweaked, but almost fine!! the bike was COMPLETELY mangled tho.. but still, i was amazed. it held so well it ripped the motor mount off the frame..
#33
RE: 06 zzr600 wheelie
the cage was tweaked, but almost fine!! the bike was COMPLETELY mangled tho.. but still, i was amazed. it held so well it ripped the motor mount off the frame..
#35
RE: 06 zzr600 wheelie
If the pressure points or some say getting the whole package as one, the stresses are transferred to somewhere totally different that it may have not been designed for.
#36
RE: 06 zzr600 wheelie
well as long as you put the pressure points to a place where it can handle the pressure the impact should not effect it. Such as tying everything into the frame at multiple points so the impact is distributed over the frame. Then at that point the cage should be taking almost all of the impact. as far as what i'm looking to do.
#37
RE: 06 zzr600 wheelie
if you're gonna fab it yourself, i can give you some pointers, but sadly i cant give you the whole secret recipie.. thats my mealticket!! i build top notch cages using these tricks....
-shoe-type pipe bender
-grinder
-MIG welder
and thats about it. i do the calculations and free form cold bends in the bender, then shape my notches to fit snugly, not allowing more than 1/16" of a gap around the entire pipe.
i got a few other tricks for this, but like i said, i gotta be an ***.. otherwise i'm cutting my own hands off wit hmy business... lol
i spot and tack while the pipe is on the bike (ecu removed and battery disconnected), then single pass on all "sencondary" joints and double or triple pass on primary, load bearing joints.
mind you i use 2-3 different sizesof pipe, different schedules, and angle for the mid-tie, so if you're looking at making your own, you need to take all the pipe dimensions, frame dimensions, offsets, frame holes, bolt diameters and lenghts and all that into consideration.
-shoe-type pipe bender
-grinder
-MIG welder
and thats about it. i do the calculations and free form cold bends in the bender, then shape my notches to fit snugly, not allowing more than 1/16" of a gap around the entire pipe.
i got a few other tricks for this, but like i said, i gotta be an ***.. otherwise i'm cutting my own hands off wit hmy business... lol
i spot and tack while the pipe is on the bike (ecu removed and battery disconnected), then single pass on all "sencondary" joints and double or triple pass on primary, load bearing joints.
mind you i use 2-3 different sizesof pipe, different schedules, and angle for the mid-tie, so if you're looking at making your own, you need to take all the pipe dimensions, frame dimensions, offsets, frame holes, bolt diameters and lenghts and all that into consideration.
#39
RE: 06 zzr600 wheelie
ORIGINAL: whitehendrix
if you're gonna fab it yourself, i can give you some pointers, but sadly i cant give you the whole secret recipie.. thats my mealticket!! i build top notch cages using these tricks....
if you're gonna fab it yourself, i can give you some pointers, but sadly i cant give you the whole secret recipie.. thats my mealticket!! i build top notch cages using these tricks....
its perfectly understandable why you cant tell me everything, I'd do the same thing if I was you. Thanks for the other tips though.
#40
RE: 06 zzr600 wheelie
ORIGINAL: warsanrotts
Age is just a number. Too bad the numbers keep getting higher faster and faster. [X(]
ORIGINAL: PsychoSixx
Is there a club for us "old guys" that just bought thier first sportbike? Im 35 and just bought my first streetbike..a Ninja 500R.
ORIGINAL: warsanrotts
You guys are killing me here! Just over 40 and just picked up my first sportbike!
You guys are killing me here! Just over 40 and just picked up my first sportbike!
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