Chain Links
#1
Chain Links
alright so i have a 05 636 and im ordering vortex sprockets -1/+2 and a new chain.. i was wondering how many links doesthe chainneed to be?
also whats the difference btw chains... o ring and x ring?
and rivet or clip master link?
thanks for ur help!
also whats the difference btw chains... o ring and x ring?
and rivet or clip master link?
thanks for ur help!
#2
RE: Chain Links
Stock chain is 110 links, I don't know about the change of sprockets but you can probably use the same length chain, maybe 1 or 2 more.
Looking at the cross section of the ring seals in between each link the o-ring chain looks like an O and the x-ring looks like an X. This means the x-ring seals have 4 contact points as opposed to 2 on the o-ring and they hold oil/lubrication longer. The X-ring will last longer and not need lubrication as much.
The rivet type master link is just that, they are rivets and you need a special tool to install it or at least get creative with a c-clamp and something with a point like a nail punch. The clip-type link can be installed with a flat head screwdriver by sliding the clip onto the two posts. Make sure the open end of the clip is facing the rear of the bike, just for added security. In racing type situations, the rivet types are mandatory, but for street riding the clip type is fine.
Looking at the cross section of the ring seals in between each link the o-ring chain looks like an O and the x-ring looks like an X. This means the x-ring seals have 4 contact points as opposed to 2 on the o-ring and they hold oil/lubrication longer. The X-ring will last longer and not need lubrication as much.
The rivet type master link is just that, they are rivets and you need a special tool to install it or at least get creative with a c-clamp and something with a point like a nail punch. The clip-type link can be installed with a flat head screwdriver by sliding the clip onto the two posts. Make sure the open end of the clip is facing the rear of the bike, just for added security. In racing type situations, the rivet types are mandatory, but for street riding the clip type is fine.
#3
RE: Chain Links
yep the stock chain is 110 links and u can run the -1 +2 setup on that chain without any clearance problem, also make sure u get steel sprockets and not the junk vortex 1's, im runnin AFAM sprockets on my bike now and i love em
#4
RE: Chain Links
In racing type situations, the rivet types are mandatory, but for street riding the clip type is fine.
#5
RE: Chain Links
ORIGINAL: Dragone#19
Not necessarily. Safety wiring a clip can be used in certain orgs.
In racing type situations, the rivet types are mandatory, but for street riding the clip type is fine.
Because at 120mph and a 30 degree lean-in angle, that last thing I want is a little piece of wire spinning around the sprockets and chain guards at thousands of revoltions per sec. Plus have fun trying to drill a hole through the little posts that join the chain...
To me it's not worth the risk.
#6
RE: Chain Links
I played in OMRRA. No where in the race manual did it say riveted chains only so I ran my tsubaki chain master link safety wired and coated the outer link with blue silicone to spot any thing that may be happening or loosening.
edit: I did not blow one chain while I raced there. Now I have a few riveting tools so my old tried and true is pointless to me except that it worked.
edit: I did not blow one chain while I raced there. Now I have a few riveting tools so my old tried and true is pointless to me except that it worked.
#7
RE: Chain Links
So did you drill through the chain link post and run a wire through them both or run a wire across both plates of the chain link like this:
Even though they show it on a riveted chain, this is how the Edmonton Motorcycle Roadracing Association shows it done. Thanks for the info but I still don't trust it... [/align]
Even though they show it on a riveted chain, this is how the Edmonton Motorcycle Roadracing Association shows it done. Thanks for the info but I still don't trust it... [/align]
#8
RE: Chain Links
I ran two safety wires around one link. Ok, I was chicken. Then coated the link with blue silicon. Easy spot point if something is wrong in a 5 minute check and see before the next race.
#9
RE: Chain Links
The rivet type is the best way to go but Clip type masterlinks are legal in many racing organizations. I have used a clip master link when I was racing also. Just safety-wire loop it twice, twistand bend the tail on the side of the link andRTV it. Be sure to wipe the side of the link with a good degreaser so the RTV will stick. I haveit that wayon my bike right now. For the street you should at least RTV the master link clip because it will eventally come off at super high speeds.
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