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Old 03-22-2007 | 09:07 PM
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I'm in the process of purchasing a shock from Wilbers. Here is the conudrum.Is the shock on the GPZ 500 the same? Was there a change in the shock when the bike was upgraded in 9X?
 
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Old 03-22-2007 | 09:24 PM
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Default RE: Old vs New Shocks

S'no problem compadre. According to the Parts Diagrams on http://www.buykawasaki.com/, the part number was the same from 1989-2005 with no changes. (45014-1365.)
Just to be on the safe side, what year is your GPZ and where are you located?
-Chris in C'bad

 
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Old 03-23-2007 | 01:09 AM
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My GPZ is actually a Ninja. When dealing with Wilbers, www.wilbersusa.com they speak GPZ. I've got a 2006 that I want to upgrade the shock on. We're pretty sure they have a shock with a higher spring rate 85N/mm which I figured out to be somewhere about 450 lb/in, can't find the paperwork right now though. It has the ability to have a remote hydraulic preload adjuster installed and a ride height adjuster on the bottom +/- 5mm. They also claim to be able to make a shock that will, well let me see if I can just add their stuff to this post. They have an office in NJ.
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Your personal offer:
No: 0030
Dear David J Evans,
Thank you for your inquiry and your interest in Wilbers-Racing-Suspension products.
So, after some confusion about the right description of your 2006 Kawasaki GPZ 500
S (respectively the Ninja 500) we are glad to finally be able to send you your personal
offer for new shock absorbers for your motorcycle!
In addition to the requested rear shock absorbers we also would like to inform you
about other Wilbers products that are available for your Kawa so that when the time
comes to think about, for example, exchanging your fork springs, you know that can
be done at Wilbers!
Please note that all the information provided are totally without any
obligations!
For your 2006 Kawasaki GZP 500 S, we can offer you the following articles:
The picture is of a 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 500
Wilbers fork springs:
As normally the standard fork springs are not chosen referring to the rider’s data,
they sometimes are too soft ex-factory and dip in too deep. At Wilbers we always
chose the spring rates, oil viscosity and also the size of the air chamber referring to
their interaction between each other and to the riders’ data. In addition, the reaction
of our springs is better than the standard, their progression is higher and they clearly
possess more reserve on the brakes. For riders of normal weight, for your motorcycle
we recommend oil of viscosity 7.5 and an air chamber of 150 mm. Below the set of
progressive fork springs we can offer for your Kawasaki is some information about
the fork oil we can recommend for your motorcycle.
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Wilbers Racing Suspension
Progressive fork springs
Order-No: 600-015-00
For US $ 99
With progressive fork springs of Wilbers-Racing-
Suspension bottoming out forks and sulky reaction
are going to be history. Due to their construction they
manage to take small road damages as easy as deep
potholes or brutal braking manoeuvres. That is the
result of our critical testing- and development
procedures. We permanently test our bikes on
racetracks like the "Nürburgring" or on the German
autobahn. This provides us with the necessary
experience of creating the ideal progressive fork
spring.
If you want to exchange your fork springs, we always recommend an exchange of the
fork oil as well so that the ideal interaction between spring, air chamber and fork oil
can be achieved. During the installation, one litre of fork oil will be sufficient. For the
ideal interaction, we suggest the following fork oil:
Wilbers Racing Suspension
Wilbers fork oil viscosity 7.5 SAE
Article-number: 610-075-00
For US $ 14.90 per litre
The right choice of oil
The importance of the right choice of fork oil is often
underestimated. As for Wilbers-Racing-Suspension forks,
the ideal oil is delivered by the same provider. Our fork oil
leaves no open questions concerning its damping abilities,
gliding characteristics, constancy and sensitivity. Wilbers
fork oil provides a loss of wear and is available in seven
different SAE-classes. The higher the SAE-class, the
thicker the oil will be. Thus, the viscosity of the fork oil is
another way of influencing damping quality. A low-viscosity
oil (SAE 5 or 7.5) will reduce damping.
A high-viscosity oil (SAE 15 or 20) will increase damping.
So, always use Wilbers oil!
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Wilbers Racing suspension shock absorbers:
All our Wilbers-Racing-Suspension shock absorbers are available either in the
Sports-line, which is equipped with a blue spring, or in the Classic-line which is fitted
with a black spring and overall more classical in its looks.
They only vary in appearance and not in performance, flexibility or price.
We also would like to inform you about one of Wilbers specialities … At Wilbers you
have the possibility to raise and lower your motorcycles’ ride height by lengthening
and shortening our Wilbers shock absorbers. This way, even very large and very
small motorcyclists gain better control over their vehicles.
Those special
constructions at Wilbers are without extra charge!
For example, depending on your choice of the shock absorber, we would be able to
lower the seating height of your Kawasaki for as much as 50 mm (approx. 2.0
inches). Of course, less is also possible!
This; however is only advisable if your bike really is too big for you! If you are
satisfied with your seating height you should not think about lowering because you
would lose lean-angle capacity as well as handling!
For your rear suspension, you might decide between three different shock absorbers,
one is form our Wilbers Racing-Suspension line and the other two belong to our well
priced Eco-Line!
Please note that only with the Wilbers-Racing-Suspension line
shock it will be possible to mount the requested accessories, the hydraulic
preload adjuster and the ride height adjustment tool!!!
So, please take a look at the recommended shock:
Wilbers Racing Suspension
Type 630 Road
Ø 36 mm
Article-number: 630-197-00
For US $ 449
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Old 03-23-2007 | 01:17 AM
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Sorry I couldn't post the pictures

To convert N/mm to lb/in I used this, see below, and came up with 485 lb/in
To Convert lbf/in to N/mm (Pounds-force per inch to Newtons per millimetre)

lbf/in x 0.175 = N/mm, Example: 100 lbf/in x 0.175 = 17.5 N/mm
To Convert N/mm to lbf/in
N/mm x 5.714 = lbf/in
OR
N/cm
x 0.5714 = lbf/in


When I tried to go backwards with this though to look at my front fork spring rates it didn't make much sense. I'll have to look into it some more.
 
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