Hey guys...yet another newbie question..
#4
RE: Hey guys...yet another newbie question..
ORIGINAL: ex5seeker
I couldn't get the bike to go past 80mph today. It pulls strong to about 70-80 then the needle just stop climbing. It feels kind of like hitting the rev-limiter but the rpm was only around 8-9K. When I open the throttle up all the way, the speed actually drops a little to the 70's but when I hold the throttle at about 95% open, the needle very slowly crawls past 80. Any ideas or similar experiences?
I couldn't get the bike to go past 80mph today. It pulls strong to about 70-80 then the needle just stop climbing. It feels kind of like hitting the rev-limiter but the rpm was only around 8-9K. When I open the throttle up all the way, the speed actually drops a little to the 70's but when I hold the throttle at about 95% open, the needle very slowly crawls past 80. Any ideas or similar experiences?
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RE: Hey guys...yet another newbie question..
In addition to the previous excellent suggestions, I would buy or borrow a copy of the factory service manual and check the routing of the vaccuum hoses. If the previous joker (er, I mean owner) removed the fuel-tank vent hose, he probably removed/disabled some other hoses that are better left unbothered. A disconnected vaccuum hose could certainly account for this.
Stuff like this drives me crazy. Why do some of us feel the need to tinker/destroy the perfectly balanced machine?
Good luck and let us know it goes.
Peace!
-Chris in Carlsbad, CA
Stuff like this drives me crazy. Why do some of us feel the need to tinker/destroy the perfectly balanced machine?
Good luck and let us know it goes.
Peace!
-Chris in Carlsbad, CA
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RE: Hey guys...yet another newbie question..
Bingo! There's your problem.
Mr. Yoshimura knows a lot less about making a motorcycle go fast than Mr. Kawasaki. And they both know a LOT-LOT more than this guy diddling with the exhaust.
Did the bike come with the original pipes? I predict when you put those back on, the bike will spool right up to 125mph lickity-split, (as long as that joker with the soldering iron hasn't effed up the jetting too.
If this bike didn't include all of the original, stock equipment, I hope you got a good deal on it. These previous tinkerers have thwarted Mr. Kawasaki's best intentions and debauched and defiled one of his beautiful children.
Disagree? Go out and have a top-end contest with a bone-stock 500R.
I'd return everything to stock. Not only will your bike perform better, I predict it will get better mileage too.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Peace!
-Chris in Carlsbad, CA
Mr. Yoshimura knows a lot less about making a motorcycle go fast than Mr. Kawasaki. And they both know a LOT-LOT more than this guy diddling with the exhaust.
Did the bike come with the original pipes? I predict when you put those back on, the bike will spool right up to 125mph lickity-split, (as long as that joker with the soldering iron hasn't effed up the jetting too.
If this bike didn't include all of the original, stock equipment, I hope you got a good deal on it. These previous tinkerers have thwarted Mr. Kawasaki's best intentions and debauched and defiled one of his beautiful children.
Disagree? Go out and have a top-end contest with a bone-stock 500R.
I'd return everything to stock. Not only will your bike perform better, I predict it will get better mileage too.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Peace!
-Chris in Carlsbad, CA
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RE: Hey guys...yet another newbie question..
hahaha calamarichris, I can see that some things are amiss here as well. I can also see where a two into one exhaust may be ok depending on how the ride was tuned, cams, jetting and ignition to meet the riders uses. I F*** with my rides to meet my needs. Just because a corporation needs to fill/meet everyones' needs with one product ie Kawasaki. Then add the extra little goodies(factory parts) that are available. Does not mean that one product is perfect for just one rider. But not knowing how everything works as a unit and just use something that looks cool lets say or that cannot be used for that riders style can be disastrous if not tuned properly.
#10
RE: Hey guys...yet another newbie question..
ORIGINAL: Dragone#19
Does not mean that one product is perfect for just one rider. But not knowing how everything works as a unit and just use something that looks cool lets say or that cannot be used for that riders style can be disastrous if not tuned properly.
Does not mean that one product is perfect for just one rider. But not knowing how everything works as a unit and just use something that looks cool lets say or that cannot be used for that riders style can be disastrous if not tuned properly.
And as soon as you install a louder pipe, you've upset the delicate hydrodynamic balance that Kawasaki's engineers and PhD's have worked long and hard to perfect, and made it a less efficient machine.
And what's the next step after you've put on an aftermarket pipe? Of course now that you've screwed up the backpressure and meticulously-metered and engineered flow, you must correct the carburetor jetting. And we civilians and non-PhD's simply do not have access to the know-how or the tools that KHI does to ever recover that delicate state of balance again. Sure, we have dynotuners, but these guys are basically salesmen with a very pliable instrument that they can easily manipulate to overcome any post-purchase ambivalence.
Proof? How come hp-numbers fluctuate so greatly that magazines are often quick to point out that the claimed and actual hp numbers are always going to vary? Because a dyno-tuner can do little things here and there like tire pressure, throttle settings, ram-air fan positioning that will make it appear as if your bike was a slug when you brought it in, but they magically transformed it into a stronger, faster engine!
I've never heard of ANYone who actually got better mileage after going to a dynotuner or installing a jet-kit, and fuel economy is indeed an indication of efficiency and proper tuning. The only way I'd trust a dyno-tuner is if he had an O2 meter and got permission to braze ports into your header pipes. BUT NONE OF THEM DO THIS. Why? Because it's much easier and cheaper to take a short-cut with a Dyno's settings than it is to do it correctly.
On the other hand, I have seen engines that died premature deaths because of carbon build-up on the valves and on piston crowns; carbon build-up resulting from over-rich conditions. And every aftermarket jet-kit essentially solves any aftermarket-induced carburetion problems by simply throwing a richer mixture at them.
Remember those "carb-o-meters" of about 5 years ago with the red & green colored lights that were supposed to directly measure the fuel-air ratio in your intake throat? How come you never see those around anymore? About the most sophisticated method of determining jetting is the throttle-chop method.
I believeWalMart, Starbucks, AT&T, Nestle and Coca-Cola deserve our mistrust just as much as any mega-corporation, but screwing with something as intricate, delicate and (to us) unmeasurable, as the fuel-air ratio is foolhardy.
If it please the court, I submit the current state of this poor guy's bike as exhibit-A.
Peace!
-Chris in Carlsbad, CA