WTF is with these Harley riders?
#81
07-26-2007, 02:19 AM
RE: What is with these Harley riders?
ORIGINAL: klx250s_rider
They ride up from Phoenix and Scottsdale in huge packs of up to 40 riders
They ride up from Phoenix and Scottsdale in huge packs of up to 40 riders
#82
07-26-2007, 02:26 AM
RE: What is with these Harley riders?
ORIGINAL: klx250s_rider
Jerry you missed one of my earlier posts:
This is a regular occurrence - The town I'm living in is a tourist attraction and in the last 7-years is becoming a "Sturgis" port for these HD riders. They ride up from Phoenix and Scottsdale in huge packs of up to 40 riders - typically 500 to 1000 HD's will come into town over the course of a weekend. The larger groups block both lanes and hold up traffic with their slow "das group" driving. So this quiet little town hears nothing but the loud ripping sound of Harley's going by all weekend mainly to hit the bars. I guess I just don't understand this kind of follow-the-leader "lemming-like" riding.
Jerry you missed one of my earlier posts:
This is a regular occurrence - The town I'm living in is a tourist attraction and in the last 7-years is becoming a "Sturgis" port for these HD riders. They ride up from Phoenix and Scottsdale in huge packs of up to 40 riders - typically 500 to 1000 HD's will come into town over the course of a weekend. The larger groups block both lanes and hold up traffic with their slow "das group" driving. So this quiet little town hears nothing but the loud ripping sound of Harley's going by all weekend mainly to hit the bars. I guess I just don't understand this kind of follow-the-leader "lemming-like" riding.
#83
07-26-2007, 02:29 AM
RE: What is with these Harley riders?
I admire the craftsmanships of Harleys, and I try ot respect anyone that rides. But there unfortunately are too many riders of all makes that aren;t part of the motorcycle community. I passed another BMW R1200RT same as mine this afternoon and was floored that he didn't wave. There's all types among any group.
This morning I passed guy on HD. He was taking his time accelerating up tothe speed limit, so when legal I made a pass briskly (got up ot 90)because traffic was comming. I look in my rear view mirror now doing 70mph (on a 2 lane 55mphroad) and he's keeping pace. I figure... ok, so you think you're bike is fast... I drop to 5th accelerate to 85mph for a2long sweepers and watch him disapear behind me. I might have a "touring bike" that can be mistaken for a goldwing... but it handles more like a sportbike.
I once remember passing a HD on my kawasaki too. I disapeared again after one or two turns.
Lastly, there is a story of a HD that pulls up to a BMW R1200GS Adventure (giant dirtbike with 100hp) at a stopliught that just gotback form ridingoff road andis all muddy. The HD says his bike looks like a garbage truck and goes on to explain how he has a screaming eagle kit...blah, blah, blah. Long story short, they race and he gets smoked by the BMW. Pulls up again and says he had a bad start. Gets beat even worse. The third light, he stayed back 20 feet.
This morning I passed guy on HD. He was taking his time accelerating up tothe speed limit, so when legal I made a pass briskly (got up ot 90)because traffic was comming. I look in my rear view mirror now doing 70mph (on a 2 lane 55mphroad) and he's keeping pace. I figure... ok, so you think you're bike is fast... I drop to 5th accelerate to 85mph for a2long sweepers and watch him disapear behind me. I might have a "touring bike" that can be mistaken for a goldwing... but it handles more like a sportbike.
I once remember passing a HD on my kawasaki too. I disapeared again after one or two turns.
Lastly, there is a story of a HD that pulls up to a BMW R1200GS Adventure (giant dirtbike with 100hp) at a stopliught that just gotback form ridingoff road andis all muddy. The HD says his bike looks like a garbage truck and goes on to explain how he has a screaming eagle kit...blah, blah, blah. Long story short, they race and he gets smoked by the BMW. Pulls up again and says he had a bad start. Gets beat even worse. The third light, he stayed back 20 feet.
#84
07-26-2007, 02:31 AM
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RE: What is with these Harley riders?
ORIGINAL: FM_Thumper
This was never a debate. It's a forum and we express our opinions and feelings. You have yours, I have mine. Ifthe twotrain shall not meet, so be it. Like Klx250s_rider said, it's supposed to be fun. I don't post in threads that I don't have fun posting in. 
Have fun on the XL, ride safe!
ORIGINAL: vfrpilot
I'd really like to continue this "intelligent "debate but I see that you didn't come prepared!
Besides that I havea XL that's calling my name. I'm going riding! Ya'all have a nice evening!
I'd really like to continue this "intelligent "debate but I see that you didn't come prepared!Besides that I havea XL that's calling my name. I'm going riding! Ya'all have a nice evening!
Have fun on the XL, ride safe!
#85
07-26-2007, 02:38 AM
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RE: What is with these Harley riders?
ORIGINAL: klx250s_rider
Jerry you missed one of my earlier posts:
This is a regular occurrence - The town I'm living in is a tourist attraction and in the last 7-years is becoming a "Sturgis" port for these HD riders. They ride up from Phoenix and Scottsdale in huge packs of up to 40 riders - typically 500 to 1000 HD's will come into town over the course of a weekend. The larger groups block both lanes and hold up traffic with their slow "das group" driving. So this quiet little town hears nothing but the loud ripping sound of Harley's going by all weekend mainly to hit the bars. I guess I just don't understand this kind of follow-the-leader "lemming-like" riding.
Jerry you missed one of my earlier posts:
This is a regular occurrence - The town I'm living in is a tourist attraction and in the last 7-years is becoming a "Sturgis" port for these HD riders. They ride up from Phoenix and Scottsdale in huge packs of up to 40 riders - typically 500 to 1000 HD's will come into town over the course of a weekend. The larger groups block both lanes and hold up traffic with their slow "das group" driving. So this quiet little town hears nothing but the loud ripping sound of Harley's going by all weekend mainly to hit the bars. I guess I just don't understand this kind of follow-the-leader "lemming-like" riding.
#86
07-26-2007, 02:39 AM
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RE: What is with these Harley riders?
ORIGINAL: IOWAGAY
you just have to argue with anything someone writes dont you.I bet if someone gave you a junker you'd play it to be the best thing in the world. And you really need to do your homework if you think the Roadking is that much more of a bike than most of the metric cruisers that would ride circles around the harley.nuff said sucker[sm=angrymail.gif]
you just have to argue with anything someone writes dont you.I bet if someone gave you a junker you'd play it to be the best thing in the world. And you really need to do your homework if you think the Roadking is that much more of a bike than most of the metric cruisers that would ride circles around the harley.nuff said sucker[sm=angrymail.gif]
ORIGINAL: Iowaguy
research Lentner Cycle Co. in Ottumwa, Iowa. they are a very large HD/Buell dealer for many years. On each bike they have a factory card listing msrp, tax, setup, freight. Each one is taken straight off HD's suggested pricing and nothing is marked up a red cent. Doesn't matter if you're buying a std. sportster 883 or a Screamin' Eagle Night Train. Everything is sold at msrp legitimate pricing. And they can get any bike you want. Same goes for C&C Custom Cycle in Chariton, Iowa. This is the largest HD dealer in the midwest and where I had bought my Sporty in '03. Retail all the way here too. This isn't 1995.
As far as performance goes, I'd have to see your Nomad "light up" a Road King. I would venture to say that it would be real close and I am almost sure the HD is putting out more torque. Anyways, I do not buy cruisers for acceleration. It's okay to be proud of your import cruiser, but do not get the false assumption that it is in the same class as a Harley-Davidson. Because it isn't. You could look at it like a false Rolex compared to a real one. Everyone knows it's a fake. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't function just fine. That shaft drive is a dead giveaway from the real thing.
You can downplay resale value all you want, but you know it's real and that you will not keep that bike forever. Eventually, you will lose money on it. Don't get me wrong though, I do like the Nomad but would never buy one. My neighbor has a VTX1800, sounds like a 350 chevy with his pipes. Sweet bike and is built like a tank. But it's still a Honda and that's it's biggest fault. It's a foreign made cruiser. Kind of like comparing a Toyota Tundra to a Dodge Ram or F150 or any domestic pickup. The Toyota is nice, but everyone knows it has Tacoma underpinnings and is basically a very weak pickup. Their frames are like paper.
ORIGINAL: BurntOrange
Iowa, I did say performance. My stock Nomad will light up a stock Road King in the 0-60, 1/4, you name it -I'll smile and wave as I leave it in the dust.
I paid 12k for my Nomad and I challeng you to go toa HD dealer and buy a new bike for MSRP. The RKs in two shops I went in were marked up to over 20k.
As for investment, that is what stocks are for. I'll take the 8-10k I didn't spend on a tank badge and use it for road trips. I never buy a bike for the purpose of resaleing it -why would anyone do that?
I never said it was the "best" bike, I just wanted to make the point that it is NOT a "sad imitation" of anything.
Iowa, I did say performance. My stock Nomad will light up a stock Road King in the 0-60, 1/4, you name it -I'll smile and wave as I leave it in the dust.
I paid 12k for my Nomad and I challeng you to go toa HD dealer and buy a new bike for MSRP. The RKs in two shops I went in were marked up to over 20k.
As for investment, that is what stocks are for. I'll take the 8-10k I didn't spend on a tank badge and use it for road trips. I never buy a bike for the purpose of resaleing it -why would anyone do that?
I never said it was the "best" bike, I just wanted to make the point that it is NOT a "sad imitation" of anything.
As far as performance goes, I'd have to see your Nomad "light up" a Road King. I would venture to say that it would be real close and I am almost sure the HD is putting out more torque. Anyways, I do not buy cruisers for acceleration. It's okay to be proud of your import cruiser, but do not get the false assumption that it is in the same class as a Harley-Davidson. Because it isn't. You could look at it like a false Rolex compared to a real one. Everyone knows it's a fake. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't function just fine. That shaft drive is a dead giveaway from the real thing.
You can downplay resale value all you want, but you know it's real and that you will not keep that bike forever. Eventually, you will lose money on it. Don't get me wrong though, I do like the Nomad but would never buy one. My neighbor has a VTX1800, sounds like a 350 chevy with his pipes. Sweet bike and is built like a tank. But it's still a Honda and that's it's biggest fault. It's a foreign made cruiser. Kind of like comparing a Toyota Tundra to a Dodge Ram or F150 or any domestic pickup. The Toyota is nice, but everyone knows it has Tacoma underpinnings and is basically a very weak pickup. Their frames are like paper.
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#87
07-26-2007, 02:47 AM
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#88
07-26-2007, 02:49 AM
RE: What is with these Harley riders?
so Iowaguy -- what sort of harley do you ride? why waste your time with anything but a harley since they are the rolex of the motorcycle world? I mean i like some of the harleys, i have nothing against the motorcycle, just some of its riders.
what makes a rolex worth what it sels for? nothing but the consumers market and the fact that yuppies will pay that much to gain a little prestige. you can get more robust, better performing, designer styled watches for less from other quality brands.
Sure a harley is like a rolex, not worth its asking price (to me anyways)
what makes a rolex worth what it sels for? nothing but the consumers market and the fact that yuppies will pay that much to gain a little prestige. you can get more robust, better performing, designer styled watches for less from other quality brands.
Sure a harley is like a rolex, not worth its asking price (to me anyways)
#89
07-26-2007, 02:59 AM
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