Won't starty out of the blue
#11
01-19-2007 | 07:33 AM
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RE: Won't starty out of the blue
well if your bike had been sittin for 2 weeks then you might want to check the gas because the gas these days is S***T so that is a option and then what everyone else has said just common stuff really. good luck.
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01-19-2007 | 08:51 AM
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RE: Won't starty out of the blue
Ok I have been reading these posts on my Blackberry and now that I am home I have to say I'm really disappointed . So I am going to re-post my findings, this is a foolproof plan, read this, and then see if there is something that you did or didn't do in the process. I promise that you will be ably to start your bike no matter how long its been sitting. I first found this out on my wife's 2006 Yamaha XT 225, and then tried it on my bike. Not only did it work every time, but every time I didn't follow the procedure, the bikes wouldn't start. Time tested, and proven to work. Give it a shot.
Here is the thread, and you can read all of the comments. https://www.kawasakiforums.com/m_96672/tm.htm
But here is the low down. Give it a try, and also keep in mind a bike doesn't start harder with mods like exhaust and jetting, it actually helps it. But this procedure will work on all bikes.
Shut down procedure.
1. After riding as you are pulling into your driveway, or to speed things up you can do this a block from your house, turn off the gas.
2. Let the bike run until it actually dies from gas starvation, (this may take 2-5 minutes) But that's ok it will give you time to put away your gear.
3. Park it and now you're ready for the next time you ride whether that be in a day, or a month.
Start up procedure.
1. Turn on the gas
2. Wait for 10 seconds
3. Start the bike as you always do
Now I know some of you are asking why not just drain the bowl and then you can start the bike. Well there are two reasons. It it harder to drain the bowl by hand than to let the bike do this as it runs out of gas, and by running the gas out using the motor, it assures that all of the small areas that would otherwise still have this junk they call fuel will be empty, ready for fresh, (fresher) gas to get in and do its job. Now all of that being said, I came up to work yesterday to let my son ride the moped up on the lawn and I cranked on the bike for a few minutes, and then I thought I wonder if I can drain the bowl and do the "after thought" procedure to get this thing going? Well I drained the bowl, turned the gas back on and two kicks and it was running. Keep in mind that the moped is a two stroke, and it has been sitting up at work in a mechanical room for about 2 months. So either way, whether running the gas out using the motor so you are ready to go next time (which I think is faster and more efficient) or you drain the bowl using the screw at the bottom of the carb, the results are the same, you get your bike started.
And I even guess some people would say that this is a hassle, but I gotta tell you that cranking on a bike for 5 minutes off and on only to run the battery down and still have not started the bike is way more of a hassle than a little time taken to get ready for the next ride. This last summer I rode my bike everyday for about 3 months, and it always started right up, but there are a couple of reasons. one it was warmer out, cold weather affects fuels in a negative way, and more importantly by riding the bike everyday I had gas in the bowl that didn't have enough time to "change". Next summer I will probably go back to leaving the gas on and not draining the bowl. but on the wife's bike the procedure will always be to run it out of gas since she doesn't ride as often as I do.
Here is the thread, and you can read all of the comments. https://www.kawasakiforums.com/m_96672/tm.htm
But here is the low down. Give it a try, and also keep in mind a bike doesn't start harder with mods like exhaust and jetting, it actually helps it. But this procedure will work on all bikes.
Shut down procedure.
1. After riding as you are pulling into your driveway, or to speed things up you can do this a block from your house, turn off the gas.
2. Let the bike run until it actually dies from gas starvation, (this may take 2-5 minutes) But that's ok it will give you time to put away your gear.
3. Park it and now you're ready for the next time you ride whether that be in a day, or a month.
Start up procedure.
1. Turn on the gas
2. Wait for 10 seconds
3. Start the bike as you always do
Now I know some of you are asking why not just drain the bowl and then you can start the bike. Well there are two reasons. It it harder to drain the bowl by hand than to let the bike do this as it runs out of gas, and by running the gas out using the motor, it assures that all of the small areas that would otherwise still have this junk they call fuel will be empty, ready for fresh, (fresher) gas to get in and do its job. Now all of that being said, I came up to work yesterday to let my son ride the moped up on the lawn and I cranked on the bike for a few minutes, and then I thought I wonder if I can drain the bowl and do the "after thought" procedure to get this thing going? Well I drained the bowl, turned the gas back on and two kicks and it was running. Keep in mind that the moped is a two stroke, and it has been sitting up at work in a mechanical room for about 2 months. So either way, whether running the gas out using the motor so you are ready to go next time (which I think is faster and more efficient) or you drain the bowl using the screw at the bottom of the carb, the results are the same, you get your bike started.
And I even guess some people would say that this is a hassle, but I gotta tell you that cranking on a bike for 5 minutes off and on only to run the battery down and still have not started the bike is way more of a hassle than a little time taken to get ready for the next ride. This last summer I rode my bike everyday for about 3 months, and it always started right up, but there are a couple of reasons. one it was warmer out, cold weather affects fuels in a negative way, and more importantly by riding the bike everyday I had gas in the bowl that didn't have enough time to "change". Next summer I will probably go back to leaving the gas on and not draining the bowl. but on the wife's bike the procedure will always be to run it out of gas since she doesn't ride as often as I do.
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01-19-2007 | 02:17 PM
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RE: Won't starty out of the blue
Deej,
Read his first post. He said the "carb was dry" which tells me he was doing the procedure you are speaking of.
Read his first post. He said the "carb was dry" which tells me he was doing the procedure you are speaking of.
ORIGINAL: deej
Ok I have been reading these posts on my Blackberry and now that I am home I have to say I'm really disappointed . So I am going to re-post my findings, this is a foolproof plan, read this, and then see if there is something that you did or didn't do in the process. I promise that you will be ably to start your bike no matter how long its been sitting. I first found this out on my wife's 2006 Yamaha XT 225, and then tried it on my bike. Not only did it work every time, but every time I didn't follow the procedure, the bikes wouldn't start. Time tested, and proven to work. Give it a shot.
Here is the thread, and you can read all of the comments. https://www.kawasakiforums.com/m_96672/tm.htm
But here is the low down. Give it a try, and also keep in mind a bike doesn't start harder with mods like exhaust and jetting, it actually helps it. But this procedure will work on all bikes.
Shut down procedure.
1. After riding as you are pulling into your driveway, or to speed things up you can do this a block from your house, turn off the gas.
2. Let the bike run until it actually dies from gas starvation, (this may take 2-5 minutes) But that's ok it will give you time to put away your gear.
3. Park it and now you're ready for the next time you ride whether that be in a day, or a month.
Start up procedure.
1. Turn on the gas
2. Wait for 10 seconds
3. Start the bike as you always do
Now I know some of you are asking why not just drain the bowl and then you can start the bike. Well there are two reasons. It it harder to drain the bowl by hand than to let the bike do this as it runs out of gas, and by running the gas out using the motor, it assures that all of the small areas that would otherwise still have this junk they call fuel will be empty, ready for fresh, (fresher) gas to get in and do its job. Now all of that being said, I came up to work yesterday to let my son ride the moped up on the lawn and I cranked on the bike for a few minutes, and then I thought I wonder if I can drain the bowl and do the "after thought" procedure to get this thing going? Well I drained the bowl, turned the gas back on and two kicks and it was running. Keep in mind that the moped is a two stroke, and it has been sitting up at work in a mechanical room for about 2 months. So either way, whether running the gas out using the motor so you are ready to go next time (which I think is faster and more efficient) or you drain the bowl using the screw at the bottom of the carb, the results are the same, you get your bike started.
And I even guess some people would say that this is a hassle, but I gotta tell you that cranking on a bike for 5 minutes off and on only to run the battery down and still have not started the bike is way more of a hassle than a little time taken to get ready for the next ride. This last summer I rode my bike everyday for about 3 months, and it always started right up, but there are a couple of reasons. one it was warmer out, cold weather affects fuels in a negative way, and more importantly by riding the bike everyday I had gas in the bowl that didn't have enough time to "change". Next summer I will probably go back to leaving the gas on and not draining the bowl. but on the wife's bike the procedure will always be to run it out of gas since she doesn't ride as often as I do.
Ok I have been reading these posts on my Blackberry and now that I am home I have to say I'm really disappointed . So I am going to re-post my findings, this is a foolproof plan, read this, and then see if there is something that you did or didn't do in the process. I promise that you will be ably to start your bike no matter how long its been sitting. I first found this out on my wife's 2006 Yamaha XT 225, and then tried it on my bike. Not only did it work every time, but every time I didn't follow the procedure, the bikes wouldn't start. Time tested, and proven to work. Give it a shot.
Here is the thread, and you can read all of the comments. https://www.kawasakiforums.com/m_96672/tm.htm
But here is the low down. Give it a try, and also keep in mind a bike doesn't start harder with mods like exhaust and jetting, it actually helps it. But this procedure will work on all bikes.
Shut down procedure.
1. After riding as you are pulling into your driveway, or to speed things up you can do this a block from your house, turn off the gas.
2. Let the bike run until it actually dies from gas starvation, (this may take 2-5 minutes) But that's ok it will give you time to put away your gear.
3. Park it and now you're ready for the next time you ride whether that be in a day, or a month.
Start up procedure.
1. Turn on the gas
2. Wait for 10 seconds
3. Start the bike as you always do
Now I know some of you are asking why not just drain the bowl and then you can start the bike. Well there are two reasons. It it harder to drain the bowl by hand than to let the bike do this as it runs out of gas, and by running the gas out using the motor, it assures that all of the small areas that would otherwise still have this junk they call fuel will be empty, ready for fresh, (fresher) gas to get in and do its job. Now all of that being said, I came up to work yesterday to let my son ride the moped up on the lawn and I cranked on the bike for a few minutes, and then I thought I wonder if I can drain the bowl and do the "after thought" procedure to get this thing going? Well I drained the bowl, turned the gas back on and two kicks and it was running. Keep in mind that the moped is a two stroke, and it has been sitting up at work in a mechanical room for about 2 months. So either way, whether running the gas out using the motor so you are ready to go next time (which I think is faster and more efficient) or you drain the bowl using the screw at the bottom of the carb, the results are the same, you get your bike started.
And I even guess some people would say that this is a hassle, but I gotta tell you that cranking on a bike for 5 minutes off and on only to run the battery down and still have not started the bike is way more of a hassle than a little time taken to get ready for the next ride. This last summer I rode my bike everyday for about 3 months, and it always started right up, but there are a couple of reasons. one it was warmer out, cold weather affects fuels in a negative way, and more importantly by riding the bike everyday I had gas in the bowl that didn't have enough time to "change". Next summer I will probably go back to leaving the gas on and not draining the bowl. but on the wife's bike the procedure will always be to run it out of gas since she doesn't ride as often as I do.
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01-19-2007 | 03:05 PM
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RE: Won't starty out of the blue
I found that even with running the carb dry, I have to cycle the choke in and out slowly for it to start to catch. Once I find the sweet spot doing that I just hold it there and it will fire up in the next few spins of the motor. Full choke is sometimes just too much, and being that the choke is on a spring you have to just fiddle with it unlike other pull chokes that are set and forget.
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01-19-2007 | 03:47 PM
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RE: Won't starty out of the blue
With you gas on, open the drain screw on the lower right side of the carb and let some gas run thru it, close the drain screw, hit your choke (if your environment requires it)and she should fire right up. That's what I have to do to mine after it has sat in the cold.
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01-19-2007 | 07:19 PM
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RE: Won't starty out of the blue
WOW!!!!!!!, glad this post reminded me to go out and start the bike. Took about 10 min, but she fired up with only messing with the choke and throttle. Left unattended for 2 weeks plus.
I had intended to leave bike active this winter in case I wanted to ride, but now I may drain all the fluids and winterize it. Hope all works out for ya!!!!!!!!
BE SAFE
Dave
I had intended to leave bike active this winter in case I wanted to ride, but now I may drain all the fluids and winterize it. Hope all works out for ya!!!!!!!!
BE SAFE
Dave
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01-20-2007 | 04:10 AM
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RE: Won't starty out of the blue
Hmmm yes I read that the carb was dry, but how did you do the shut down. Both of my bikes have not been started in a week and its been really cold here in the 20's, I just went out, turned on the gas, waited for 10-15 seconds pulled the chokes, and varoom!! No problems here. I do wonder if the fact that I have the muzzy and the carb is jetted to 40 and 132, and running the air box cover off makes a difference? Oh well I hate to sound like this but it works for me. I do hope everyone figures out individually a way to get their bikes started as easily as I did.
