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Old 04-14-2009 | 04:31 PM
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Meijer $3.99 a quart, tractor drippings free.
 
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Old 04-14-2009 | 06:21 PM
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does the oil have to be a motorcycle oil to be wet clutch compatible or will a cood car engine oil work too?
I guess the "will it work" question is relative. The bike would go forward and shift through the gears. I don't know enough about "wet clutch" chemistry and friction to elaborate.

But our bike has a Wet Clutch, so it is required in my book.

Here is a picture and some reading material:
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=76

Maybe your local shop can order a case for you?
Maybe Valvolinme will ship you a case?
 
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Old 04-14-2009 | 11:22 PM
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I thought there was a difference in clutches between our KLXs and the semi-automatic ATVs (ones w/o a clutch lever) that separates the types of oil we should use. I tend to stay away from any oil unless it specifically states that it is for a four-stroke motorcycle.

I switched to full synthetic as well...used Amsoil last year, now can't find it anymore, so I now use Mobil 1 full synthetic motorcycle oil from Walmart (same price as Amsoil...$14 per liter)
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 01:00 AM
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use the Lucas Oil 10w-40 synthetic blend. good stuff!
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 03:55 AM
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Its best to use a motorcycle oil. Not only because of the wet clutch, but because of the additives in the oil. For one, motorcycle oil has a higher level of zinc to help protect against cam wear.
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by maineack bob
well ive got some bad news not one of my local stores or parts shops has any of the oils you guys sudjested becides the ams oil which is almost 20 bucks a lieter and i cant afford that does the oil have to be a motorcycle oil to be wet clutch compatible or will a cood car engine oil work too?
Yo Bob, ignore everything you have read so far ...... just use oil that you can get locally that has the ratings outlined in the owner/service manual....you know SJ, SH or whatever the ratings are again.....but you get the idea, just pick what you can get locally all the time, that meets the factory specs and you are good to go. The klx is NOT a performance bike.

For me, living in Florida Castro Syntec is at every convience store / grocery store / Wally world / whatever ......so when I need some oil I got it.....it meets the service manual specs..DONE.

But do try not to mix brands of oil and just stick with one....especially with top off's.

If its Synthetic....you could hold off on oil changes a little longer.....if its the cheap oil that meets the basic specs....change it sooner. It is not that complicated.
 

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Old 04-15-2009 | 06:21 AM
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My understanding is that Automotive oils have "friction modifiers" which can cause a wet clutch to slip.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_modifier
Oils made specifically for motorcycles don't have this additive

But I basically agree with Finger on this one.
Anything that is within spec is fine for this bike.

For what it's worth, I use Shell Advance SX4, which is described as a Synthetic Fortified oil. Middle of the road stuff I suppose. Cheap enough to change often, but not too cheap.
 
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Old 04-15-2009 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by neilaction
My understanding is that Automotive oils have "friction modifiers" which can cause a wet clutch to slip.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_modifier
Oils made specifically for motorcycles don't have this additive

But I basically agree with Finger on this one.
Anything that is within spec is fine for this bike.
True...but have you ever seen a SH/SJ Oil in a 10-40 range that has modifiers.....ain't gonna happen, that's why there is a spec.....funny part is that in a pinch usually any good diesel oil matches the klx spec. Not that I ever needed oil on a lil adv ride.

A spec is a specification .... period.

How could you not agree with Finger.
 

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Old 04-15-2009 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Finger Mullet
A spec is a specification .... period.

How could you not agree with Finger.
Maybe.
It's just possible that it's all a big marketing scam designed to make us pay 3 times more for oil than we need to.

As you say "gotta agree wid da finger"
But I'm not risking it, I'm sticking with the m/c specific oil.
 

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Old 04-15-2009 | 07:39 AM
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I have a bit of time on my hands and thought I would look into it a bit.
Nearly all info I found stating the necessity to use motorcycle specific oil in a motorcycle was not truly independent.
It was either supplied by a company selling oil or was simply opinion.
One "independent" consumer study/article back in 1994 came to the conclusion that there was not a significant difference between M/C and Auto oil.
http://www.suzukicavalcade.com/Maintenance/oil_test.htm
Then I found this study.
http://www.lube4u.com/pdf/g2156%20Study%20MC%20oils.pdf
It looked like a really detailed and independent study until you get to the last page.
Can't always trust what you read I guess.
 



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