what oil to run... sooo many choices
#22
does the oil have to be a motorcycle oil to be wet clutch compatible or will a cood car engine oil work too?
But our bike has a Wet Clutch, so it is required in my book.
Here is a picture and some reading material:
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=76
Maybe your local shop can order a case for you?
Maybe Valvolinme will ship you a case?
#23
I thought there was a difference in clutches between our KLXs and the semi-automatic ATVs (ones w/o a clutch lever) that separates the types of oil we should use. I tend to stay away from any oil unless it specifically states that it is for a four-stroke motorcycle.
I switched to full synthetic as well...used Amsoil last year, now can't find it anymore, so I now use Mobil 1 full synthetic motorcycle oil from Walmart (same price as Amsoil...$14 per liter)
I switched to full synthetic as well...used Amsoil last year, now can't find it anymore, so I now use Mobil 1 full synthetic motorcycle oil from Walmart (same price as Amsoil...$14 per liter)
#25
Its best to use a motorcycle oil. Not only because of the wet clutch, but because of the additives in the oil. For one, motorcycle oil has a higher level of zinc to help protect against cam wear.
#26
well ive got some bad news not one of my local stores or parts shops has any of the oils you guys sudjested becides the ams oil which is almost 20 bucks a lieter and i cant afford that does the oil have to be a motorcycle oil to be wet clutch compatible or will a cood car engine oil work too?
For me, living in Florida Castro Syntec is at every convience store / grocery store / Wally world / whatever ......so when I need some oil I got it.....it meets the service manual specs..DONE.
But do try not to mix brands of oil and just stick with one....especially with top off's.
If its Synthetic....you could hold off on oil changes a little longer.....if its the cheap oil that meets the basic specs....change it sooner. It is not that complicated.
Last edited by Finger Mullet; 04-15-2009 at 05:02 AM.
#27
My understanding is that Automotive oils have "friction modifiers" which can cause a wet clutch to slip.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_modifier
Oils made specifically for motorcycles don't have this additive
But I basically agree with Finger on this one.
Anything that is within spec is fine for this bike.
For what it's worth, I use Shell Advance SX4, which is described as a Synthetic Fortified oil. Middle of the road stuff I suppose. Cheap enough to change often, but not too cheap.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_modifier
Oils made specifically for motorcycles don't have this additive
But I basically agree with Finger on this one.
Anything that is within spec is fine for this bike.
For what it's worth, I use Shell Advance SX4, which is described as a Synthetic Fortified oil. Middle of the road stuff I suppose. Cheap enough to change often, but not too cheap.
#28
My understanding is that Automotive oils have "friction modifiers" which can cause a wet clutch to slip.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_modifier
Oils made specifically for motorcycles don't have this additive
But I basically agree with Finger on this one.
Anything that is within spec is fine for this bike.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_modifier
Oils made specifically for motorcycles don't have this additive
But I basically agree with Finger on this one.
Anything that is within spec is fine for this bike.
A spec is a specification .... period.
How could you not agree with Finger.
Last edited by Finger Mullet; 04-15-2009 at 06:56 AM.
#29
It's just possible that it's all a big marketing scam designed to make us pay 3 times more for oil than we need to.
As you say "gotta agree wid da finger"
But I'm not risking it, I'm sticking with the m/c specific oil.
Last edited by neilaction; 04-15-2009 at 07:13 AM.
#30
I have a bit of time on my hands and thought I would look into it a bit.
Nearly all info I found stating the necessity to use motorcycle specific oil in a motorcycle was not truly independent.
It was either supplied by a company selling oil or was simply opinion.
One "independent" consumer study/article back in 1994 came to the conclusion that there was not a significant difference between M/C and Auto oil.
http://www.suzukicavalcade.com/Maintenance/oil_test.htm
Then I found this study.
http://www.lube4u.com/pdf/g2156%20Study%20MC%20oils.pdf
It looked like a really detailed and independent study until you get to the last page.
Can't always trust what you read I guess.
Nearly all info I found stating the necessity to use motorcycle specific oil in a motorcycle was not truly independent.
It was either supplied by a company selling oil or was simply opinion.
One "independent" consumer study/article back in 1994 came to the conclusion that there was not a significant difference between M/C and Auto oil.
http://www.suzukicavalcade.com/Maintenance/oil_test.htm
Then I found this study.
http://www.lube4u.com/pdf/g2156%20Study%20MC%20oils.pdf
It looked like a really detailed and independent study until you get to the last page.
Can't always trust what you read I guess.