What Octane fuel do you use??
#41
RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
ORIGINAL: Marty
Actually, it was a mistatement, the proper verb tense was I DID most of my racing.
With the restrictions that the state of Florida places on me to keep my teaching credentials, one ticket will put me out of business!
Actually, it was a mistatement, the proper verb tense was I DID most of my racing.
With the restrictions that the state of Florida places on me to keep my teaching credentials, one ticket will put me out of business!
I know you are extremely safety conscious. I was just messin' with you.
#42
RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
ORIGINAL: EMS_0525
actually i think ins on the zx14 was higher for younger drivers.... one guy got a quote at 15k$ per year on that bike, i dont know if ins on a corvette would be that high...
actually i think ins on the zx14 was higher for younger drivers.... one guy got a quote at 15k$ per year on that bike, i dont know if ins on a corvette would be that high...
I just did something stupid . . . . I got a quote on the ZX-14 for myself as the only rider.
$480 a year!
To me that's quite high as I am currently paying less than that a year for 4 motorcycles!
I'm sure riding the ZX-14 is a real trip. Almost like having unlimited power at your disposal.
I would however like to make a few 1/4 mile passes on the bike. Of course you might not be able to get me off after that!
#43
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RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
Motoguy-
Calling the Honda 3.0 "high tech" is pushing it. It's not as high tech as some other VVTI V6's, same thing with the 3.5 Nissan. It's nothing to brag about either as it gets pretty crappy mileage. But calling them higher tech than the InTech 32-valved all aluminum 300 horse Mark VIII engine is insane. Pretty much the thing they have over the Lincoln is variable valve timing, but the Mark had so much power and torque it wasn't required plus it would get 32 mpg all day cruising the highway. This is nearly the same engine that went into the '96-up Cobra Mustang. The '93 version (first year and only 280 horse- exhaust updates made it 300 horse in later years) Mark VIII would push the 4500 lb car to 60 in 7 seconds, pretty impressive for such a small engine. If you really want to drive a fast V6, take the wheel of a new 6-speed Ford Fusion with the VVT 3.0 V6 that's had the PCM reflash done from Ford- they are darn rockets for a V6.
The ZO6 is not discontinued- it is probably the best bang for the buck in all of sports cars. It's basically a race car you can buy that gets good mileage while appreciating daily. It outperforms all but the best exotics for a fraction of the price. A stock ZO6 with slicks ran a 10.85 @130 mph. That's pretty impressive, that is quicker than all but the high end sportbikes.
Also, ethanol cuts down fuel efficiency and is bad on injectors as it will clog them over time. I'm right in the middle of ethanol country being from Des Moines- our pumps only have mid-grade with ethanol. The 87 and premium 91-92 do not have ethanol. I wouldn't put ethanol in my lawnmower or anything else for that matter if I was paid. I don't care what anyone says, the higher the octane, the better an engine will run. This is from my experiences. Until a scientist proves me different I am sticking to my gut on this one.
Calling the Honda 3.0 "high tech" is pushing it. It's not as high tech as some other VVTI V6's, same thing with the 3.5 Nissan. It's nothing to brag about either as it gets pretty crappy mileage. But calling them higher tech than the InTech 32-valved all aluminum 300 horse Mark VIII engine is insane. Pretty much the thing they have over the Lincoln is variable valve timing, but the Mark had so much power and torque it wasn't required plus it would get 32 mpg all day cruising the highway. This is nearly the same engine that went into the '96-up Cobra Mustang. The '93 version (first year and only 280 horse- exhaust updates made it 300 horse in later years) Mark VIII would push the 4500 lb car to 60 in 7 seconds, pretty impressive for such a small engine. If you really want to drive a fast V6, take the wheel of a new 6-speed Ford Fusion with the VVT 3.0 V6 that's had the PCM reflash done from Ford- they are darn rockets for a V6.
The ZO6 is not discontinued- it is probably the best bang for the buck in all of sports cars. It's basically a race car you can buy that gets good mileage while appreciating daily. It outperforms all but the best exotics for a fraction of the price. A stock ZO6 with slicks ran a 10.85 @130 mph. That's pretty impressive, that is quicker than all but the high end sportbikes.
Also, ethanol cuts down fuel efficiency and is bad on injectors as it will clog them over time. I'm right in the middle of ethanol country being from Des Moines- our pumps only have mid-grade with ethanol. The 87 and premium 91-92 do not have ethanol. I wouldn't put ethanol in my lawnmower or anything else for that matter if I was paid. I don't care what anyone says, the higher the octane, the better an engine will run. This is from my experiences. Until a scientist proves me different I am sticking to my gut on this one.
#44
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RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
ORIGINAL: Marty
H'mmm, very interesting . . . . $70,000 for a car that is capable of mid 11 second 1/4 mile times at 127 mph.
A $12,000 ZX-14 that will outperform it by almost 2 seconds in the 1/4 mile and run a trap speed of almost 146 mph!
I know which one I'd spend my money on!
ORIGINAL: EMS_0525
the corvette ZO6 is not discontinued.....
2007 Corvette Z06: Starts at $70,000
505-hp 7.0 Liter LS7 aluminum-block engine[sm=gears.gif]
...... right from chevrolet.com.....
the corvette ZO6 is not discontinued.....
2007 Corvette Z06: Starts at $70,000
505-hp 7.0 Liter LS7 aluminum-block engine[sm=gears.gif]
...... right from chevrolet.com.....
H'mmm, very interesting . . . . $70,000 for a car that is capable of mid 11 second 1/4 mile times at 127 mph.
or
A $12,000 ZX-14 that will outperform it by almost 2 seconds in the 1/4 mile and run a trap speed of almost 146 mph!
I know which one I'd spend my money on!
http://www.tremek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26973
also, the ZX-14 may seem very quick which it is, but back in '98 the then new ZX-10R ran a sub 10-second 1/4 mile at like 138 mph. and way back in 1990, the then new and now legendary ZX-11 ran a 10.2 @136 which was unheard of at that time. when you think about it, the ZX-14 really isn't that much quicker than that bike. granted it makes tons more power and is a better all around and much higher tech bike, but really not that much better performance wise as far as twisting the throttle is concerned. fyi, the ZX-11 topped out at 176 mph- there's only 2-3 bikes that can outrun it to this date!
#45
RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
keep your eye on that site iowaguy, tremek, i am a memeber of that forum too... great site for every kind of racing... and high performance... its a sweet site...
#46
RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
All I know is that I'm gonna look for a Z06 or other hi-po sumthin or other next time I need to fuel up, pull in behind them, and then flip the cheap-A$$ switch on the pump and pay as little as possible for that sweet stuff left behind in the hose!
Thanks for all the input/perspectives/knowledge sharing.....
Thanks for all the input/perspectives/knowledge sharing.....
#47
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RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
you'll never see a ZO6. and as far as getting the "sweet stuff left behind in the hose", you're dreamin. that just doesn't happen. do you think with all the high tech this and that around that our gas pumps can't do a better job than that when distributing gas? I'm no expert on gas pumps which I've already stated, but I'm sure there are valves inside the pumps that regulate what grade of gas goes through the hose when it is chosen. believe what you want though. don't you think that gas station owners would complain to pump manufacturers if they were letting 1-2 gals. of premium through for the price of regular? seems to me that that would be a lot of lost revenue for station owners if that were the case as they'd be losing money on the premium gas. it's just not true and for anyone who believes that it is, well, you must be an optimist.
#48
RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
ORIGINAL: Marty
I just did something stupid . . . . I got a quote on the ZX-14 for myself as the only rider. $480 a year!
To me that's quite high as I am currently paying less than that a year for 4 motorcycles!
I'm sure riding the ZX-14 is a real trip. Almost like having unlimited power at your disposal.
I would however like to make a few 1/4 mile passes on the bike. Of course you might not be able to get me off after that!
I just did something stupid . . . . I got a quote on the ZX-14 for myself as the only rider. $480 a year!
To me that's quite high as I am currently paying less than that a year for 4 motorcycles!
I'm sure riding the ZX-14 is a real trip. Almost like having unlimited power at your disposal.
I would however like to make a few 1/4 mile passes on the bike. Of course you might not be able to get me off after that!
#49
RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
ORIGINAL: Iowaguy
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I'm no expert on gas pumps which I've already stated, but I'm sure there are valves inside the pumps that regulate what grade of gas goes through the hose when it is chosen. believe what you want though. don't you think that gas station owners would complain to pump manufacturers if they were letting 1-2 gals. of premium through for the price of regular? seems to me that that would be a lot of lost revenue for station owners if that were the case as they'd be losing money on the premium gas. ...
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I'm no expert on gas pumps which I've already stated, but I'm sure there are valves inside the pumps that regulate what grade of gas goes through the hose when it is chosen. believe what you want though. don't you think that gas station owners would complain to pump manufacturers if they were letting 1-2 gals. of premium through for the price of regular? seems to me that that would be a lot of lost revenue for station owners if that were the case as they'd be losing money on the premium gas. ...
I agree that there probably is some features of the pump that prevent dispensing of the incorrect grade, but not for the reason that you state. Gas delivery is highly regulated, so there probably are rules specifically for this scenario. In the absense of those rules, though, I would bet that the station owners would not voluntarily pay for a more complex pump system to account for an issue that really doesn't affect their pocket at all.
I think much of the problem is the terminology that we use to describe gasoline. We call the higher octane fuel "premium", which implies that it is better. Some stations use color designation like "gold", "silver" and "bronze", again implying that higher octane is better. It's not. It's just different. It's no better for an engine that doesn't need it than diesel fuel fuel is. Diesel fuel is more expensive than gasoline in my area right now (can't ever figure out why that flip flops sometimes ). Just because it is more expensive does not mean that I am going to start putting it in my tank so that my bike will run better. Gas is a tool, and you just need to select the right tool for the job.
Just my $0.02 (what would that be in Can$ or Aus$)?
#50
RE: What Octane fuel do you use??
ORIGINAL: Iowaguy
oh how uneducated we can be sometimes. thanks to EMS_0525 for showing me this the first time. I'd like to see someone other than Ricky Gadson run a 9.5 sec. 1/4 mile on any Ninja. speaking from much drag racing experience it's very hard to launch one of these missiles. it takes a lot of practice and a lot of clutches to get a result like that. launching a car however is easier because you don't have to worry about wheelying over backwards.
oh how uneducated we can be sometimes. thanks to EMS_0525 for showing me this the first time. I'd like to see someone other than Ricky Gadson run a 9.5 sec. 1/4 mile on any Ninja. speaking from much drag racing experience it's very hard to launch one of these missiles. it takes a lot of practice and a lot of clutches to get a result like that. launching a car however is easier because you don't have to worry about wheelying over backwards.
"It’s hard to imagine a friendlier beast, even at the strip. Can you fog a mirror? Then you can put a ZX-14 in the mid-11s at 120-something. Your little sister could clock an 11.48. Aim for the traps. Put 3500 rpm on the tach. Now ease the clutch out and wind the throttle in one fluid motion. Shift three times at 11,000 rpm without lifting the front wheel higher than your head—or hitting the rev limiter—and you’re there."
"Rickey Gadson used everything Barry taught him the very next weekend in Valdosta, Georgia, earning a Super Street win and a national mph record the first time out on his ZX-14 racebike. Is it quick? How about 8.48 seconds at 178.12 mph".
Also quoted
“This bike makes horsepower in a totally predictable way,” Burke said. “And that, along with all that clutch feel, makes it really easy to launch.”
"Smooth, obedient power and excellent feel from a bulletproof, ZX-11-sized clutch get the job done like nothing else. The old ZX-12R would never have survived this kind of abuse. And the longer, lower chassis parks you closer to the sticky asphalt where drag racers like to be. Despite the Hayabusa’s hard-earned reputation, there’s no way a bunch of variously talented amateurs could go this quick on one. The cool thing is, the same friendly demeanor we noted on the strip makes the 14 more fun on the Vegas strip, as well."
Just to finish this off I thought this was a good sumation
"That distinct shortage of glitches may be the most remarkable facet of the new ZX-14. From the 1973 Z-1 to the 2000 ZX-12R, Kawasaki has earned a reputation for building some of the quickest, fastest things on two wheels. That speed came often at the expense of refinement, but not any more. From tip to tail, the ZX-14 seems as sophisticated and well finished as anything out there, and more so than most. Welcome to brutal horsepower and cliché-shattering acceleration with no unpleasant aftertaste.
And what of the Hayabusa? It’ll take some serious testing on our home court to settle that score. But right now, we’re thinking Suzuki’s meanest is starting to taste a little like chicken."