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I tried the old "hand over the exhaust" trick last time without any luck either.

I tried the not-as-old "hold the choke part way out" trick" this time, and there were no miracles.

I tried the really old "crank it 4-5 times until it starts" trick and that eventually worked! :eek:

I always close my fuel petcock and let the engine run a bit, but this time I let the engine run until it died on its own ... and got sort of a "euthanasia" feeling about it in the process. (Its too young to die!!!)

I had to let it run for a few minutes before it started to sputter when I reved it, but then let it idle until the float bowl was empty.

Let's see how it starts next time.

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If this thread was started by someone other than "deej".. http://images.putfile.com/smilies/013.gif

I would say it sounds like excellent advice.. https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider/thumb.gif

But since "deej" started it.. Now I'm not to sure.. http://images.putfile.com/smilies/017.gif

But what would I know.. I ride a yamaha xt225.. http://images.putfile.com/smilies/015.gif
Hope "deej" ain't sensitive.. Or I will get a skull bashing.. [sm=icon_beat.gif]


"deej" [sm=shutup.gif] "Chartman"

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LOL I think. I am still trying to figure out if that was a compliment, an insult or both :D:D:D Later man.

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I tried leaving my bike with the gas on, and off, it doesn't matter either way as I still have to open up the drain screw for a couple seconds after the bike has sat for about a week. I don't have to wait too long, like I said I just open the screw for a few seconds, close it, hit the magic button and it cranks over on the first hit.

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Nice Job Deej! ( and all others )
Unfortunatley, my bike is stored up north till spring :(.........
Anyway, I'm going to lunch with my bud from Keihin on the 21st. This guy has calibrated almost everything on 2 wheels. I'll let everyone know what I find out about the CVK34.

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Well actually you are right. leaving the gas on or off will not change the situation. Here are the steps one more time.

Shut down procedure.

1. After riding as you are pulling into your driveway, or to speed things up you can do this a block from your house, turn off the gas.
2. Let the bike run until it actually dies from gas starvation, (this may take 2-5 minutes) But that's ok it will give you time to put away your gear.
3. Park it and now you're ready for the next time you ride whether that be in a day, or a month.

Start up procedure.

1. Turn on the gas
2. Wait for 10 seconds
3. Start the bike as you always do

Now I know some of you are asking why not just drain the bowl and then you can start the bike. Well there are two reasons. It is harder to drain the bowl by hand than to let the bike do this as it runs out of gas, and by running the gas out using the motor, it assures that all of the small areas that would otherwise still have this junk they call fuel will be empty, ready for fresh, (fresher) gas to get in and do its job. Now all of that being said, I came up to work yesterday to let my son ride the moped up on the lawn and I cranked on the bike for a few minutes, and then I thought I wonder if I can drain the bowl and do the "after thought" procedure to get this thing going? Well I drained the bowl, turned the gas back on and two kicks and it was running. Keep in mind that the moped is a two stroke, and it has been sitting up at work in a mechanical room for about 2 months. So either way, whether running the gas out using the motor so you are ready to go next time (which I think is faster and more efficient) or you drain the bowl using the screw at the bottom of the carb, the results are the same, you get your bike started. ;)

And I even guess some people would say that this is a hassle, but I gotta tell you that cranking on a bike for 5 minutes off and on only to run the battery down and still have not started the bike is way more of a hassle than a little time taken to get ready for the next ride. This last summer I rode my bike everyday for about 3 months, and it always started right up, but there are a couple of reasons. one it was warmer out, cold weather affects fuels in a negative way, and more importantly by riding the bike everyday I had gas in the bowl that didn't have enough time to "change". Next summer I will probably go back to leaving the gas on and not draining the bowl. but on the wife's bike the procedure will always be to run it out of gas since she doesn't ride as often as I do.

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Sounds like a plan to me!

I think you're on the right track with letting the engine run to empty the bowl. Who knows, maybe letting the bike idle a few minutes after a ride might be good for the engine.

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You got it, Deej, that is the procedure indeed. I started mine up after sitting for a month that way (hey, I love it but it competes with 2 other bikes in the stable and 2 jobs that eat most of my awake time). Granted, I'm in FL and it isn't cold here...

[DEEJ: To answer you way above, yeah I'm around here only a little so you don't really know me. Bike #1 -- BMW F650 Dakar: I got to know it thoroughly and farkle it madly. Added bike #2: BMW 1200GS -- got to know it just a little and farkle a little. Added bike #3: the KLX, and now I'm just too busy at this point in my life to get to know it and farkle it yet. It is still stock. I lurk here as a future participant for when I get to attend to it more!]

Peace,

Charles

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IT WAS SCARY!!! [sm=insomnia.gif]

I started my bike yesterday after sitting for 3-4 days, and I pressed the e-start and started wondering how long it would crank. Before I had a chance to finish that thought ... it was already running!!!

Previously, I shut off the fuel petcock and let the bike run till it died on its own.

Yesterday, I turned on the fuel, pulled the choke all the way, then let it sit while I put on my helmet. (It was -3 degrees C, but sunny and the roads were clear, so I wanted to take the Quiet Core out for a spin at lunch time.) Turned the key and pressed the button... it was running in less than asecond!!!

I followed the same shutdown procedure (i.e. shut the fuel valve and let the bike run till it dies), so we'll see next time if this is a reproducible success!!

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Awesome Man, let us know what happens.;)