New EFI KLX250S performance testing needed.
#31
Pair valve is a pollution reduction device as well, with the sole purpose of adding air to the exhaust to aid in burning unburned hydrocarbons. They've been used on bikes for decades to help meet pollution standards, before bikes ever ran cat convertors. Removing the pair valve and blocking the port off will not add any performance and definitely will add to unburned hydrocarbons. This can be a problem if you happen to live in an area where there are e-checks for registration or if you prefer to keep pollution to a minimum and figure a few ounces isn't worth it.
#32
Pair valve is a pollution reduction device as well, with the sole purpose of adding air to the exhaust to aid in burning unburned hydrocarbons. They've been used on bikes for decades to help meet pollution standards, before bikes ever ran cat convertors. Removing the pair valve and blocking the port off will not add any performance and definitely will add to unburned hydrocarbons. This can be a problem if you happen to live in an area where there are e-checks for registration or if you prefer to keep pollution to a minimum and figure a few ounces isn't worth it.
It really does not reduce the power, but it is better to remove it if there is no catalyst - just to overheat the exhaust pipe less at low speeds. You will laugh - my license plate burned so badly. If the catalyst is installed, in no case should PAIR be turned off.
The catalyst is directly involved in the "afterburning". There, in addition to hydrocarbons, work is also underway with a number of exhaust gases, with which nothing can be done simply by introducing air.
#33
When you deactivate the O2 sensor you "turn off" closed loop operations. All fueling becomes open loop. This should NEVER be done unless accompanied by a tuning device (EJK or PCFC) that has been configured correctly for controlling the "now deactivated" closed loop area of engine operations.
Simply deactivating the O2 sensor is playing with fire as the stock ECM programming was never intended to use open loop functioning to control the (deactivated) closed loop ops.
Only someone that does not understand the intricacies of EFI ( closed and open loop fuel management ) would "jack around" with their O2 sensor - and doing so likely from listening to other idiots..
Any EFI KLX exhaust system will need to have, or be fitted with, a 12mm (NB O2 sensor) bung in the stock location as O2 deleting components are now (USA), or soon to be, illegal worldwide.
Simply deactivating the O2 sensor is playing with fire as the stock ECM programming was never intended to use open loop functioning to control the (deactivated) closed loop ops.
Only someone that does not understand the intricacies of EFI ( closed and open loop fuel management ) would "jack around" with their O2 sensor - and doing so likely from listening to other idiots..
Any EFI KLX exhaust system will need to have, or be fitted with, a 12mm (NB O2 sensor) bung in the stock location as O2 deleting components are now (USA), or soon to be, illegal worldwide.
#34
When you deactivate the O2 sensor you "turn off" closed loop operations. All fueling becomes open loop. This should NEVER be done unless accompanied by a tuning device (EJK or PCFC) that has been configured correctly for controlling the "now deactivated" closed loop area of engine operations.
Simply deactivating the O2 sensor is playing with fire as the stock ECM programming was never intended to use open loop functioning to control the (deactivated) closed loop ops.
Only someone that does not understand the intricacies of EFI ( closed and open loop fuel management ) would "jack around" with their O2 sensor - and doing so likely from listening to other idiots..
Any EFI KLX exhaust system will need to have, or be fitted with, a 12mm (NB O2 sensor) bung in the stock location as O2 deleting components are now (USA), or soon to be, illegal worldwide.
Simply deactivating the O2 sensor is playing with fire as the stock ECM programming was never intended to use open loop functioning to control the (deactivated) closed loop ops.
Only someone that does not understand the intricacies of EFI ( closed and open loop fuel management ) would "jack around" with their O2 sensor - and doing so likely from listening to other idiots..
Any EFI KLX exhaust system will need to have, or be fitted with, a 12mm (NB O2 sensor) bung in the stock location as O2 deleting components are now (USA), or soon to be, illegal worldwide.
#35
Users of this forum should be aware that removing the oxygen sensor, in addition to increasing pollution, may likely cause the engine to overheat. At least on EFI models. For full details please see this article and scroll down in the messages (do a search for 27/04/2019 04:52:47 UTC).
Here is what was said by that particular author/rider (apparently very experienced, knowledgeable and wise):
Here is what was said by that particular author/rider (apparently very experienced, knowledgeable and wise):
"There is a further restriction in that the engine is limited to 6500 RPM in the top three gears. This is easily overcome by joining two wires together and then the engine will rev out in every gear."
WTF is that about?
#36
This is in reference to the clutch switch mod. It bypasses the switch; so, in return, the bike will crank over even with the clutch out. I did this mod, in hopes that my KLX was being limited up top by said clutch switch, like the gentleman said in the article. I had my bike dynoed again, and it did not seem to do anything powerwise. Keep in mind, this is with the US 2018+ KLX250.
#37
This is in reference to the clutch switch mod. It bypasses the switch; so, in return, the bike will crank over even with the clutch out. I did this mod, in hopes that my KLX was being limited up top by said clutch switch, like the gentleman said in the article. I had my bike dynoed again, and it did not seem to do anything powerwise. Keep in mind, this is with the US 2018+ KLX250.
#38
Would you need a wideband 02 sensor to use a PCV effectively?
#39
It does. It disables the RPM restrictions in higher gears. Tested on my klx, without the mod the max rpm was 7500, and my max speed 114 km/h.
With the switch mod, the max rpm was around 11000 ( or 10000, dont remember well), and my max speed 131 km/h.
IMO, this is a useful mod.
With the switch mod, the max rpm was around 11000 ( or 10000, dont remember well), and my max speed 131 km/h.
IMO, this is a useful mod.
#40
It does. It disables the RPM restrictions in higher gears. Tested on my klx, without the mod the max rpm was 7500, and my max speed 114 km/h.
With the switch mod, the max rpm was around 11000 ( or 10000, dont remember well), and my max speed 131 km/h.
IMO, this is a useful mod.
With the switch mod, the max rpm was around 11000 ( or 10000, dont remember well), and my max speed 131 km/h.
IMO, this is a useful mod.
Last edited by greychinos; 01-10-2021 at 02:12 PM.