Seems not many kids went off the deep end and shot up schools back then either. And it wasn't because of guns in racks in pickup trucks in the parking lot. It is because the kids are pretty damn vicious these days. Parents seem to think they're all angels. If teachers and principals were able to discipline the way they did when I was in school (not to mention parents) I think things might be a bit different. No way I'd want any student to have any guns in any school where I taught - just don't trust too many of them. They could suck up some bath salts or crack and do up everyone they could.

 

I tried taking my Barrett 98 Bravo with me on my KLX chasing a big scrubbie (wild bull) last year. Never again.

 

Yeah I was watching a story the other day on the news where a school in Texas allows and even encourages teachers to pack guns....I wanna live there. I think all who want to pack should be allowed to.

 

a lot of the gun forums have "bike" threads discuss what to carry and how...

 

First, for the purpose of the topic, I was carrying a rifle on my other bike with something like that http://images.motorcycle-superstore....ack_Single.jpg attached on the handlebars for short hunting ride. It doesn't protect against the elements and it's not good for single trails where it could hit a branch or tree!

I know it's not the purpose of the topic but it went this way so I'm adding my 2 cents too. I totally disagree with you opinion but respect it and I'm biaised in my opinion since our culture is different in Canada. I think that if everybody has a gun people will get more paranoid and anxious about their protection and there's a risk of more shooting. But what I think is the major problem is the kind of gun available. I don't think that they thought about automatic/semi-automatic guns with > 10 bullets magazine when they adopted the Constitution in 1787. I don't have any problem with a guy carrying a handgun or rifle for hunting or whatever protection since it's in your culture but I think that those automatic/semi-automatic guns are way too accessible in the US. Sorry if I offended anybody with my opinion.

 

I think it all goes back to them mispelling bare as bear. They meant for everyone to have the right to wear short sleeve shirts, remember the first bunch over from England were Puritans.

 

I want to comment on that sentiment...as in it's irrelevant. The major purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to ensure civilians have the right to own and possess arms sufficient to mount an effective defense against an antagonistic government or other unfriendly militaristic threat. Yes, at the time of founding, this meant primarily muzzleloading firearms...military state of the art at that time. What this means now is all manner of cartridge firearms, including any type of action...military state of the art at this time. I'd argue that U.S. gun laws are already much more restrictive than the founders intended.

The real problem in the U.S. (and anywhere war, murder, genocide, etc. exists) is a lack of R-E-S-P-E-C-T and humility. Our culture has degraded...we've lost the will to teach these values to our children, we don't educate our children to be silently strong, we let everyone think that they are somehow more special than everyone else, and to take offense if they're not treated specially. We've lost accountability from the time of birth. We've lost the ability to discipline, and lost the value of self-discipline. We think we're teaching 'inclusiveness' but we've lost the forest for the trees.

But enough of all that talk. To the question of the OP, I have seen a Kolpin Gunboot, such as one of the pictures above, only mounted to a KLR running from near the footpeg diagonally up past the subframe. Looked to work so well that I have one too, though I have not mounted it to the KLX yet.

 

I respect your opinion, but I think you mistake the reason for our 2nd amendment. Our founders were what I consider wise men, and you can confirm their reasons behind the amendment by reading their personal writings in other documents. They intended the citizens to have guns to protect them from threats both inside and outside this country...other governments who might attack our home and our own government if it overstepped its bounds.

My comment is not that of one who is just applying his own wishful logic and meaning to the 2nd amendment. Many personal writings of the authors involved in our founding documents confirm that it is rational and wise to be leery of your government. They knew the nature of men and especially men with lots of power. Of course they didn't know there would be fully automatic weapons and nuclear bombs, but they wouldn't expect our citizens to oppose an oppressive government from within or from outside while we were armed with nothing but singleshot rifles and breakover shotguns. I find it interesting that almost without exception, those who aggressively pursue the removal of many of the guns from the citizenry are also those who desire and promote big government...just a coincidence...probably.

I realize that some of my ramblings here might be taken as unfounded fear. No, I don't hide under the bed at night. I don't cringe when someone knocks on the door. And I don't get nervous when a helicopter flies over the house...black or not. But I do try give our founding fathers some credit. They lived through tyranny, and I'd hope they learned a thing or two to pass on to us.

 

Hear, hear, TNC!

 

TNC for President.... I'm serious.


What scares me is the huge percentage of our population that couldn't tell you what the Second Amendment is or follow your train of thought.



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