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really and you slide out with them i used to ride my xr650 with those tires in the dessert they wernt that bad ya they slide out alittle but not to sketchy ha
shinko 705 120/90-17 and 130/90-17 monsters but they will work and WAY cheaper than any other. On the flip side im going with shinko 006 podiums in a 120/60-17 and a 140/60-17