KLX250 EFI big bore - is there an actual EFI solution?

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Old 09-05-2021 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cicastol Cica
292CC Cyl with 260CC/min inj is like original 249Cc cyl coupled with 220CC/min inj, adding free flow exhaust with KDX200 snorkel and a twin air filter and slightly more fueling is needed.
A 2,5kOhm NTC thermistor in series to the original IAT NTC fitted inside the airbox fool the ecu thinking a colder air is actually sucked (near 10°C colder) adding a little more fuel to the mixture (5%).
Thank you so much for responding.
Your idea is absolutely brilliant!
Do you have a picture of your installation? If you don't, that's ok as I think I get your idea that the thermistor ~also~ has to be within the airbox along with the original one in order to ~also~ sense the intake air temprature. I'm going to do this just like you did.

Thanks again,
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Old 09-05-2021 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tooter
Thank you so much for responding.
Your idea is absolutely brilliant!
Do you have a picture of your installation? If you don't, that's ok as I think I get your idea that the thermistor ~also~ has to be within the airbox along with the original one in order to ~also~ sense the intake air temprature. I'm going to do this just like you did.

Thanks again,
Greg
Thanks Greg,
you are right, NTC must be put in the airbox, i placed mine on the side before air filter, it's fitted through a drilled 5mm hole then sealed with RTV silicone.
 
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Old 09-05-2021 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cicastol Cica
Thanks Greg,
you are right, NTC must be put in the airbox, i placed mine on the side before air filter, it's fitted through a drilled 5mm hole then sealed with RTV silicone.
The closest Thermistor I can find is 2K OHM. It's nicely encapsulated and has leads on it. Would that work? Do you know what percentage mixture richening that would yield?
 
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Old 09-07-2021 | 08:10 PM
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The closest Thermistor I can find is 2K OHM. It's nicely encapsulated and has leads on it. Would that work? Do you know what percentage mixture richening that would yield?
It will give a slightly less enriching , nothing to worry about.
 
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Old 09-08-2021 | 01:13 AM
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Why not use an adjustable 5ohm unit?
https://www.mouser.com/new/bourns/bo...ters/#Bullet-2
 
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Old 09-08-2021 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cicastol Cica
It will give a slightly less enriching , nothing to worry about.
Great.

Just ordered it from Walmart for $21.


Thanks so much for your help.

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Greg
 
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Old 09-08-2021 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by durielk
Why not use an adjustable 5ohm unit?
https://www.mouser.com/new/bourns/bo...ters/#Bullet-2
Thanks for the suggestion.
Since I already bought the thermistor I'm going that route as it adjusts for intake air temperature.
 
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Old 09-09-2021 | 02:37 PM
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Well, the potentiometer will allow you to adj the ohms from 0-5, that may be useful.
 
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Old 09-09-2021 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by durielk
Well, the potentiometer will allow you to adj the ohms from 0-5, that may be useful.
That would be fine except a potentiometer is not temperature sensitive while a thermistor is.
 
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Old 09-09-2021 | 05:25 PM
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OK, so.... IMO, one could use the potientometer to dial in exactly the ohms at the exact temp, then order a correct thermistor for you exact bike. Just a suggestion.
 


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