KLX-fork swap
#12
Good question! Adding to it...are the KX forks stock or updated with gold valves? Curious minds want to know!
#13
The GV damper mods to the OEM forks just work without any drama, wheel, or other component changes. As to the stiffness, well, we're talking about a KLX here. It's not like we're going to transform the KLX250 into a KTM or such anyway.
Nothing wrong with swapping the fork out on a KLX. Heck, I've done some crazy swaps back in the day with a KX fork on a Kawasaki F7, KX fork on an old air-cooled KDX175, Husky MX forks on an old 360 Husky Enduro model, etc. It's fun, it usually works if you know what you're doing, and you have something unique.
As I get older I tend to want to invest less time for return in such projects. The GV's for the KLX250 do an impressive job of removing the compression spiking. The KLX fork isn't bad. It's just the damping that really needs attention. As to the stiffness, well, it's a KLX250. You can only go so far in making a sow's ear into a silk purse.
And that last comment from a guy who's had his '06 model since '09 and loves it.
The old modification bug is hard to shake even when logic dictates otherwise. I have a complete '01 Honda CR125 rolling chassis sitting in my shop that I got for free from the shop I used to work part time at. I've toyed with the idea of using that fork on my KLX. I've even done some measurements and fiddling with the idea of how a KLX motor could possibly fit in that frame. But hey...effort for return probably ain't in the books.
Everyone is different. The KLX has some options for suspension improvement. The front end off a KX is one and GV's are another. Pick your poison. The GV in the rear shock is another good mod for improvement, and that can easily be accomplished during a routine shock service which should be performed on a routine basis anyway. Heck, the shock is actually easier to work on than the fork.
#14
Swapping forks seems amazingly complicated to me, rife with potential downstream problems with brakes, instruments, offset and things you can't even imagine.
KLXs are not expensive bikes. So, you need to think in terms of total investment into the project. If Gold Valves don't solve the problem, you're probably better off buying something like a CFR250x.
It's easy to dig a deep hole modding. Trying to work out the problems with a fork swap on a sunny day as winter closes in has a price I am not willing to pay.
#15
Here is what is involved in swapping in KX forks on a KLX300:
HOW TO INSTALL KX-250 FORKS ON THE KLX-300
(notice who the author is)
I did the Gold Valves in the forks and tweeked the shims to what worked best for my riding style and terrain. After making the needed items to swap in the KX-250 forks, I went out to the local motorcycle park. Started off with the Gold Valve KLX300 forks and rode for awhile. Swapped in the KX and went out for more riding. For me, I haven't gone back to the KLX forks.
I hope that anyone else that has swapped in KX forks will chime in.
Ride on
Brewster
HOW TO INSTALL KX-250 FORKS ON THE KLX-300
(notice who the author is)
I did the Gold Valves in the forks and tweeked the shims to what worked best for my riding style and terrain. After making the needed items to swap in the KX-250 forks, I went out to the local motorcycle park. Started off with the Gold Valve KLX300 forks and rode for awhile. Swapped in the KX and went out for more riding. For me, I haven't gone back to the KLX forks.
I hope that anyone else that has swapped in KX forks will chime in.
Ride on
Brewster
#16
Brewster, I think several here over the years have done the KX fork swap with good results.
I'm curious on your MX track test. I raced my state's enduro circuit for many years, and for some of that I occasionally raced at our local MX track...very occasionally. Most of my enduro bikes set up ideally for enduro events really didn't shine on the MX track in the suspension department...except perhaps for one of the Husky's I had back then.
For many enduro riders and especially for trail riders, the suspension usually needs to be set up a little softer and more supple than an MX bike...usually. Getting beaten up for 3-5 hours during an enduro on an MX suspension wasn't my version of pleasure.
Anyway, I would expect a KX fork to shine on an MX track, but I would generally want some softer damping for the trail. Yes, there are lots of variables here to consider, so there are probably no absolutes.
If after a GV mod to a KLX one doesn't get enough satisfaction in suspension improvement, maybe a good used KTM or such would be in order as a better money pit...LOL! We know how the dirt bike mod disease goes.
I'm curious on your MX track test. I raced my state's enduro circuit for many years, and for some of that I occasionally raced at our local MX track...very occasionally. Most of my enduro bikes set up ideally for enduro events really didn't shine on the MX track in the suspension department...except perhaps for one of the Husky's I had back then.
For many enduro riders and especially for trail riders, the suspension usually needs to be set up a little softer and more supple than an MX bike...usually. Getting beaten up for 3-5 hours during an enduro on an MX suspension wasn't my version of pleasure.
Anyway, I would expect a KX fork to shine on an MX track, but I would generally want some softer damping for the trail. Yes, there are lots of variables here to consider, so there are probably no absolutes.
If after a GV mod to a KLX one doesn't get enough satisfaction in suspension improvement, maybe a good used KTM or such would be in order as a better money pit...LOL! We know how the dirt bike mod disease goes.
#17
I'm curious on your MX track test. I raced my state's enduro circuit for many years, and for some of that I occasionally raced at our local MX track...very occasionally. Most of my enduro bikes set up ideally for enduro events really didn't shine on the MX track in the suspension department...except perhaps for one of the Husky's I had back then.
Keep in mind that the KX forks came from a bike that weighed much less than the KLX. I did not change the shim stacks in the KX forks.
Ride on
Brewster
Last edited by Brewster; 09-16-2016 at 10:06 PM.
#19
Ride on
Brewster
#20
2021 KLX 230r fork swap
So after an awesome dual sport ride this weekend, I decided I've got to do something with my suspension. My race bike is a KTM 300xc, so the KLX is a huge step down in that department.
I'm actually fairly happy with how the rear end works, but the front is beating me up pretty bad.
My first thought was to send it off to my normal suspension guy and see what he could do with it, but then I thought maybe there were some forks I could just swap out with and go from there.
I'm actually fairly happy with how the rear end works, but the front is beating me up pretty bad.
My first thought was to send it off to my normal suspension guy and see what he could do with it, but then I thought maybe there were some forks I could just swap out with and go from there.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post