Kick Starting -- What's going on?

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Old 01-30-2012 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Landon
What if your out in the middle of nowhere not riding with anyone though? I would agree that probably 99% of the time a kickstart is not needed, but for 300 bucks if you just needed it one time it would be worth the price and the few pounds it adds to the bike.
I could not agree with you more. This is something I plan on doing this summer. I always ride alone because I don't know anyone who has the same type or interst in motorcycles as I do. Something I also do by myself is snowmobile and wouldn't you know it, it broke down on me last saturday. Managed to get it out of the woods to a main road and was able to get a cell phone signal. I cannot stop what I love to do, because I cannot find anybody to go with. A KICKSTART is high on my list of things to do. Will I need it. I hope not!
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jworth94
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My bike starts pretty easily when using the electric start (50 deg. F, full choke.) I run the bike for about 45 seconds with full choke and then no choke and it usually idles around 1400 rpm.

When I approach my bike under the same conditions and try using the kick start, it takes probably 20 kicks or so until it starts. It seems a little much to me for one of these bikes. What can/should I do to get it to start at 2-3 kicks? Is it a modification or technique issue??

It's got the original carb, jet kit, fmf muffler, stock header, no airbox lid, sea level, mixture screw 1 turn out, 38 pilot, what else do you need to know?

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I have the same problem with my 351. Once the motor is warmed up it fires right up with the kick starter. With it cold I kick what seems like forever. Never have figured out why.
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 05:17 AM
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would one of the jet ski pumper type starter units help?
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 05:48 AM
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So what happens if you treat this ride like a big bore on a cold start up? Tip it over, flood the carb, get it to TDC then lean into it(full weight kick start). My MX 360, 400 and CR480 always started within 3 kicks using that method.
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragone#19
So what happens if you treat this ride like a big bore on a cold start up? Tip it over, flood the carb, get it to TDC then lean into it(full weight kick start). My MX 360, 400 and CR480 always started within 3 kicks using that method.

Just tried this.

Tipped the bike over in the garage for 20 seconds. Had a puddle of gas sitting there when I picked it up. Ran through the kick starter slowly until I found TDC. Kicked like hell after that. Used full choke, no throttle. Several kicks later, no choke, no throttle. Several kicks later, no choke some throttle. Several kicks later, full choke, some throttle. Don't know how many times I kicked. Probably 20-30. Couldn't start it.
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IDRIDR
would one of the jet ski pumper type starter units help?
Might have to try this next, although since tipping the bike over didn't work I'm not terribly confident that this will work. Any experience with doing this? Who knows???

If I can't solve this issue, I'm selling the bike. Love the size, it's a lot of fun, but I've got to have the thing working to ride it confidently.

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Jon
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 02:33 PM
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It still could be your technique, some people have the knack and some don't. I sold a bike too a fool one time that he couldn't get started with the electric start. I had had the bike for years and it had been ridden it through the worst places I could find with no issues what so ever. I decided too sell it and when the dude arrived I fired it up rode some wheelies and slid it sideways so the guy could see that in the right hands it was a great bike. I turned it over to him and he proceeded to kill the battery trying to start it. It was funny if I pushed the button the bike fired right to life, if he pushed it it would never hit a lick. He also couldn't use the clutch, I had to push him down the drive to get underway. He bought the bike and was never happy with it, I was sorry that I sold it to him. What was he doing different the me I have no idea, he just couldn't start my bike.
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 02:49 PM
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wasn't there a thread about running this bike dry on shut down????? That solved this hard start situation? I think deej and others did that back in 06 or something that solved the issue.
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 02:56 PM
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I still think it is the KACR, so you can take that off & you might as well take the e-starter off too.
I ran my battery down to low to turn the starter over out on the trail (left the ignition on over an break that ended up being 45 mins or so). I just bump started the bike (once the battery will not turn the engine over... stop).
My BSA 650, it started with a kick starter pretty good, but in the morning I always found it easier just to bump start it.
I agree that there are a few people that could not start anything. I was the designated starter in my family.
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 03:00 PM
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I always keep a plug socket wrench and screwdriver in the toolbag on the Husky. When all else fails, (and/or if engine is cold) pull the plug, pull the fuel line at the carb end, turn on petcock to dribble some gas into the jug, replace fuel line and plug. BANG! Works every time.
 



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