Hard to start when cold?
#11
Thanks Dan, I should have worded my response better. No offense 09klx, I should have said, I would think that someone who has posted 92 times would have seen the cold start issues on this forum. I know I have. Sorry if I offended you. Maybe I read more than I post. The old saying of you learn more listening that talking has proven true to me more times than not. There are numerous people on here who have done no mods and some that have done everything imaginable to their bike. Making mods to your bike is not a prerequisite to posting. Sorry if I came over as a D%*@. Maybe, as Dan said you might turn out the fuel/ air screw and it might help. Just search this forum for "cold start" and there will be plenty of reading for you. Over 200 results. Good luck!
Last edited by scallen; 05-16-2010 at 04:08 PM.
#12
hoping that i don't get clobbered here ( :-) ), but can someone tell my what the Kouba screw does different than the screw that is currently on the '09 (if i am looking at the right place, its like my bike already has something similar to a Kouba (but it doesn't have the "T" handle, more of like a fat threaded screws.
#13
No more clobbering!! That was my fault I guess. I don't know what screw you are talking about. Are you talking about the idle adjustment on the right hand side of the carb? The kouba screw is a replacement for the air/fuel or (pilot jet) screw located under a factory cap (that is removable), on the bottom of the carb. It makes it easier to adjust instead of having to pull the carb. Try this thread.
https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...lx250s+exhaust
https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...lx250s+exhaust
#14
Those two are trying to help you also, they just didn't reply as nicely, or as thoroughly as TNC. They could have taken the high road and worded their replies differently.
Scallen apparently loves the mods he has done to the bike and is suggesting you do the same.
Racegass is trying to tell you, most of the answers are on here somewhere. It will be quicker for you and easier for others if you try a search first. If you can't find it or are still confused put up a post saying "i searched but couldn't find ........,or I found ....... but I still don't understand.
FYI You don't need to have a modified KLX to participate on here, but you will need thicker skin. It bothers me when people say "fine I'm done posting" .........if your going to quit just quit.
TNC couldn't he just turn out the idle mixture screw more to get the same results as drilling? Or are we assuming it already turned out to the max. In that case, I thought you went up one on the slow(pilot) jet?
Dan
Scallen apparently loves the mods he has done to the bike and is suggesting you do the same.
Racegass is trying to tell you, most of the answers are on here somewhere. It will be quicker for you and easier for others if you try a search first. If you can't find it or are still confused put up a post saying "i searched but couldn't find ........,or I found ....... but I still don't understand.
FYI You don't need to have a modified KLX to participate on here, but you will need thicker skin. It bothers me when people say "fine I'm done posting" .........if your going to quit just quit.
TNC couldn't he just turn out the idle mixture screw more to get the same results as drilling? Or are we assuming it already turned out to the max. In that case, I thought you went up one on the slow(pilot) jet?
Dan
Dan, on the fuel screw adjustment vs. the starter jet size, I think richening up the lower end of the fuel delivery curve helps. However, nothing affects cold startup performance like the starter jet. My opinion on overall jetting has usually been to run as lean as possible without verging on detonation or stumbling. Clean, crisp fuel delivery keeps the carbon buildup down, increases fuel mileage, and causes less issue when altitude climbs. I'm super happy with the jetting on this bike. Power is strong, mileage is excellent, and an absolutely linear feel in the powerband exists throughout the range.
#15
hoping that i don't get clobbered here ( :-) ), but can someone tell my what the Kouba screw does different than the screw that is currently on the '09 (if i am looking at the right place, its like my bike already has something similar to a Kouba (but it doesn't have the "T" handle, more of like a fat threaded screws.
#16
thanks for the replies. I haven't really taken a close look at the carb on this bike (but will when the DJ kit arrives, hopefully this week). After reading the above link from scallen, I took a look and realized what I thought was the same screw is probably just the idle adjustment:
Last edited by jxg; 05-17-2010 at 01:29 AM.
#17
jxg, you're right. But in your pic there, look directly to the right of the knurled idle **** and notice the shiny head of the fuel bowl screw. Just below that screw head in the darkness, you can see the light shining on the edge of the housing shrouding the fuel screw. Look and you'll see a plug glued into that recessed hole.
#18
Is this also called the Needle Jet?
Borrowed a small set of drill bits, might try it tomorrow. I think this is what the Yamaha dealer suggested for my son's hard-starting TTR-125 last year, but I didn't understand what he was talking about then.
#19
kawi p/n 019-511 description N424-25-038 38 pilot jet
kawi p/n 019-512 description N424-25-040 40 pilot jet
Without permanently drilling out any orifice in the cvk34 carb, using a bigger pilot jet and the kouba fuel mixture screw the hard starting problem was taken care of 0-100' asl.
Mods included 2 bros slip on exhaust, weld bead ground out inside fmf powerbomb header flange, uni filter, 132 dj main jet, 1.5-2.0 turns out kouba fuel screw, no airbox lid, drilled slide, 40 pilot jet, 3rd clip from top dj needle (dj kit 2206), case breather drilled to 3/8", 91 octane mobil/shell gas
ymmv
kawi p/n 019-512 description N424-25-040 40 pilot jet
Without permanently drilling out any orifice in the cvk34 carb, using a bigger pilot jet and the kouba fuel mixture screw the hard starting problem was taken care of 0-100' asl.
Mods included 2 bros slip on exhaust, weld bead ground out inside fmf powerbomb header flange, uni filter, 132 dj main jet, 1.5-2.0 turns out kouba fuel screw, no airbox lid, drilled slide, 40 pilot jet, 3rd clip from top dj needle (dj kit 2206), case breather drilled to 3/8", 91 octane mobil/shell gas
ymmv
Last edited by RaceGass; 05-17-2010 at 07:29 AM.
#20
If it is a needle jet, it has a part # of 16017-1439 on this diagram. http://klx250s.suncup.net/Misc%20Doc...LX250S_IPB.pdf Page 14