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Old 11-20-2009 | 09:34 AM
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In light of my recent adding a Nomad aux fuel tank and Dirt Bagz, who has actually had the problem of a failed/cracked/broken rear subframe?

https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=30917

What load did you have?

Is the problem always in the same spot?

What did you do to repair it?

I'll heed the many warnings and do some preventative "repairs" and I'm looking for a bit of a heads up.
Otherwise I will use my best judgement.
 
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Old 11-20-2009 | 04:08 PM
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A16Tony did something similar and had subframe problems:

https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...ead.php?t=2296

But yours is a different set up. I think they way your tank is carried, you'd be less likely to put so much stress on the subframe. His was actually on the rack itself which meant the load was carried directly where the rack mounted. It looks to me like the load on yours is more distributed. But I don't know ... wouldn't hurt to beef it up some if you can.
 
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Old 11-20-2009 | 09:29 PM
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Check out the below link, Neil. The thread has a detailed description of a broken subframe and subsequent repair on Dan's bike. This resulted from only having a pelican case on the bike at one time. He did say that he takes a lot of jumps and also uses the rear subframe to pick the bike up, so it's anybody's best guess as to the cause. Suffice to say that this bike's subframe is pretty weak though.

http://klxforum.suncup.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=257
 

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Old 11-20-2009 | 09:50 PM
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Niel, in looking at your photos in your other thread, I think if you could shift your tank forward about 8 inches or so where it would be sitting on the very back of the seat, basically where your dirt bags are hanging, I think you should be fine. Whether that crowds your sitting position too much is another thing, I guess it would be similar to riding two-up.

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Old 11-21-2009 | 06:34 AM
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It breaks around where the arrow is, when the subframe on my GPz550 broke I had a piece of round steel inserted into the frame then welded the frame back in place. I know yours hasn't broken just letting you know what I did. I then had 2 pieces either side of the join welded to the frame to re-enforce the joint

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Old 11-21-2009 | 07:50 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys.
I will be doing some preventative stuff for sure.


Originally Posted by Nobrakes
Niel, in looking at your photos in your other thread, I think if you could shift your tank forward about 8 inches or so where it would be sitting on the very back of the seat, basically where your dirt bags are hanging, I think you should be fine. Whether that crowds your sitting position too much is another thing, I guess it would be similar to riding two-up.
Although that would solve the subframe issue, its not possible.
There are 2 x 10mm bolts that hold the aux tank down that can't be seen in these pics. The bungee straps are just a bit of back-up.

Plus, I use the whole seat when trail riding. You gotta get waayyyy back there on the steep, slippery down hills.

One thing I need to think about is carrying a tent and other sleeping stuff for multi day remote touring, without having all the weight too far back.
I suspect that the rear of the seat is the only practical place to strap it.
 
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Old 11-21-2009 | 12:14 PM
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unless theres heavy winds expected, or rain, i say ditch the tent. by end of my death valley trip, i ended up with just the sleeping bag on the rack, a back pack and thats it. i plan to pack that way from now on, less **** to worry about and slow me down.
 
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Old 05-27-2011 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tremor38
Check out the below link, Neil. The thread has a detailed description of a broken subframe and subsequent repair on Dan's bike. This resulted from only having a pelican case on the bike at one time. He did say that he takes a lot of jumps and also uses the rear subframe to pick the bike up, so it's anybody's best guess as to the cause. Suffice to say that this bike's subframe is pretty weak though.

klxforum.suncup.net • View topic - Broken subframe!

Do you happen to know what gauge that gusset is he put in?
 
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Old 05-28-2011 | 01:38 AM
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Another subframe beef-up thread on the go on this forum right now:

https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...ubframe-31314/
 
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Old 05-28-2011 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ol'klx-er
Another subframe beef-up thread on the go on this forum right now:

https://www.kawasakiforums.com/forum...ubframe-31314/
Thanks ol'klx-er, I'm actually at the moment talking some stuff out with redpillar right now on that thread. I like what he did and what Neil did @.....
klxforum.suncup.net • View topic - Broken subframe!

I'm in the process of working out a plan to strenghten my subframe before my trip so I hopefully eliminate any future mishaps. If you have any suggests. i'm open to them all.
 


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