Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
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Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
I just completed adding a 2 brothers slip-on and 13 tooth front sprocket to my KLX and went for a 2-1/2 hour ride with my brotherand hisHonda XR500.
First let me say that my bro says his XR500 is nearly as powerful as his recently stolen KTM 525exc.
We rode for about an hour and I was keeping up just fine. He claimed he would "destroy" the KLX in a drag race so we got to a nice straight stretch of hard packedlogging road and let the bikes rip from about 10 mph. We were even until about 30 mph and then he grabbed about 1/2 a bike lenght on me. I am assuming that he was spinning more than me due to bigger torque which kept things even up to 30. From there he maintained the 1/2 lenght lead until we shut things down at about 65 mph.
He was stunned that the KLX held its own. We had raced before, prior to any mods and he blew the KLX away.
His Honda should be making around approx35 hp (crank).
I can honestly say that the KLX is now a pretty quick little bike and really comes to life above 6000 rpm.
Anyone thatquestions whether the KLX can satisfy without a big bore should do some mods, get the jetting sorted out and then re-evaluate.
It will be interesting to see how this bike moves once I do a big bore kit....
Note - I rode his bike later that day and it feels significantly more powerful but its mostly low-end.
First let me say that my bro says his XR500 is nearly as powerful as his recently stolen KTM 525exc.
We rode for about an hour and I was keeping up just fine. He claimed he would "destroy" the KLX in a drag race so we got to a nice straight stretch of hard packedlogging road and let the bikes rip from about 10 mph. We were even until about 30 mph and then he grabbed about 1/2 a bike lenght on me. I am assuming that he was spinning more than me due to bigger torque which kept things even up to 30. From there he maintained the 1/2 lenght lead until we shut things down at about 65 mph.
He was stunned that the KLX held its own. We had raced before, prior to any mods and he blew the KLX away.
His Honda should be making around approx35 hp (crank).
I can honestly say that the KLX is now a pretty quick little bike and really comes to life above 6000 rpm.
Anyone thatquestions whether the KLX can satisfy without a big bore should do some mods, get the jetting sorted out and then re-evaluate.
It will be interesting to see how this bike moves once I do a big bore kit....
Note - I rode his bike later that day and it feels significantly more powerful but its mostly low-end.
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RE: Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
Cool! My KLX250 will easily take on my KLR650 off the line (of course there is a big weight difference). My front end wants to come off the ground in 1st and 2nd but what are your other "basic mods" and are you using the stock pilot? What elevation are you at?
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RE: Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
I'm glad you're happy with the performance of your KLX, I had one and I can testify that with a full BigGun system, it will come to life even more. Also, by adding a 45-tooth to the rear with the 13 up front it will have even more low-end grunt.
But let's get a couple things straight here and not be foolish or blinded by the light. First, there is no way in he77 that an XR500 even comes remotely close to the power of a 525EXC, that thing may be pushing over 50 horsepower stock. Secondly, your bros XR didn't pull away from you because it weighs like 100lbs or so more and it was probably spinning the rear tire with all that torque. I may be a little high on poundage, but it's significantly more than your tiny KLX. I had a 2005 400EX Honda quad with the same 400cc engine that went into the XR400, and let me tell you that it would smoke my KLX I had and would easily keep up with the DRZ400SM I have currently. So I can only imagine how the 500 runs. FWIW, the XR400 makes around 35rwhp stock, so the 500 is probably closer to 40hp stock. So maybe your bro isn't as far off as I first thought about the 525 comparison, but it's still not as powerful in my estimation. The KLX is surprisingly quick, but it runs out of steam real quick. Now if you changed your header, you'd get some killer top-end power, combine that with the 13-45 gearing, and you'll be able to wheelie in 3rd like mine would. This is what slip-on supporters will always say about a full-system, that you lose low-end- not true. You just need to regear for the adjustment. 13-45 is the sweet spot for the KLX, if you've ridden with this gearing, you'll know what I mean.
But let's get a couple things straight here and not be foolish or blinded by the light. First, there is no way in he77 that an XR500 even comes remotely close to the power of a 525EXC, that thing may be pushing over 50 horsepower stock. Secondly, your bros XR didn't pull away from you because it weighs like 100lbs or so more and it was probably spinning the rear tire with all that torque. I may be a little high on poundage, but it's significantly more than your tiny KLX. I had a 2005 400EX Honda quad with the same 400cc engine that went into the XR400, and let me tell you that it would smoke my KLX I had and would easily keep up with the DRZ400SM I have currently. So I can only imagine how the 500 runs. FWIW, the XR400 makes around 35rwhp stock, so the 500 is probably closer to 40hp stock. So maybe your bro isn't as far off as I first thought about the 525 comparison, but it's still not as powerful in my estimation. The KLX is surprisingly quick, but it runs out of steam real quick. Now if you changed your header, you'd get some killer top-end power, combine that with the 13-45 gearing, and you'll be able to wheelie in 3rd like mine would. This is what slip-on supporters will always say about a full-system, that you lose low-end- not true. You just need to regear for the adjustment. 13-45 is the sweet spot for the KLX, if you've ridden with this gearing, you'll know what I mean.
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RE: Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
I can understand the klx keeping up with a bigger bike no problem especially on logging roads, where I have 1000's of hours of riding experience.
Where the klx will fall short is on the hills and different terrene like deep sand or mud. It is just like the age-old argument of 600-class vrs the liter bike. It is all about the power after that.
Nothing wrong with the klx but if you bought one for the sand dunes or very steep hilly terrene you will be disappointed. If you bought one for going around town, the logging roads and trail riding you cannot go wrong. The right bike for the right terrene, its simple.
Where the klx will fall short is on the hills and different terrene like deep sand or mud. It is just like the age-old argument of 600-class vrs the liter bike. It is all about the power after that.
Nothing wrong with the klx but if you bought one for the sand dunes or very steep hilly terrene you will be disappointed. If you bought one for going around town, the logging roads and trail riding you cannot go wrong. The right bike for the right terrene, its simple.
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RE: Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
My front end wants to come off the ground in 1st and 2nd but what are your other "basic mods" and are you using the stock pilot? What elevation are you at?
Secondly, your bros XR didn't pull away from you because it weighs like 100lbs or so more and it was probably spinning the rear tire with all that torque. I may be a little high on poundage, but it's significantly more than your tiny KLX.
This is what slip-on supporters will always say about a full-system, that you lose low-end- not true. You just need to regear for the adjustment. 13-45 is the sweet spot for the KLX, if you've ridden with this gearing, you'll know what I mean.
Nothing wrong with the klx but if you bought one for the sand dunes or very steep hilly terrene you will be disappointed. If you bought one for going around town, the logging roads and trail riding you cannot go wrong. The right bike for the right terrene, its simple.
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RE: Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
That must be one slow Honda. I have raced the 450 EXC and the KLX side by side and there is no comparison. By the time the KLX is at 60, the KTM is a half mile away. These bike just can't be compared to each other. They are in a completely separate class. Both have there advantages.
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RE: Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
That must be one slow Honda. I have raced the 450 EXC and the KLX side by side and there is no comparison. By the time the KLX is at 60, the KTM is a half mile away.
Prior to the exhaust mod and 13 tooth sprocket, a KTM 525 pulled away from the KLX with ease, not a 1/2 mile to 60mph, but significant nonetheless.
For the record, I'm not saying the KLX is in the same class as any big bore bike, my point is that with mods, the bike holds its own pretty darn well for a 250.
Given enough time and money it could likely best somemuch bigger bikes, just not sure if I'm dumb enough to go there....
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RE: Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
I dont know about all this hoopla, but after the 36 Mikuni pumper, I CAN keep up with buddies on real dirt bikes (Suzuki DRZ400 and a WR250f) NO problem. This carb truly brings the midrange to life. Now if only Icould do something that signinficantly improved the topend without a biggbore kit that will destroy the warranty!! It wont happen, but Im happy as heck right now anyway!!
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RE: Drag Race - KLX250 vs Honda XR500
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I dont know about all this hoopla, but after the 36 Mikuni pumper, I CAN keep up with buddies on real dirt bikes (Suzuki DRZ400 and a WR250f) NO problem. This carb truly brings the midrange to life. Now if only Icould do something that signinficantly improved the topend without a biggbore kit that will destroy the warranty!! It wont happen, but Im happy as heck right now anyway!!
I dont know about all this hoopla, but after the 36 Mikuni pumper, I CAN keep up with buddies on real dirt bikes (Suzuki DRZ400 and a WR250f) NO problem. This carb truly brings the midrange to life. Now if only Icould do something that signinficantly improved the topend without a biggbore kit that will destroy the warranty!! It wont happen, but Im happy as heck right now anyway!!