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Old 04-16-2012 | 08:59 PM
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Just remember a couple things. If you are going too fast, first gear will be really hard to get into, and if you stop while having not downshifted appropriately then you will have to do the half clutch in and out while holding down on the shifter till you get it into first.
 
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Old 04-16-2012 | 09:49 PM
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That "clunk" is your selector dogs getting hammered on, and it's abusive especially without synchros to help mesh them. It's also abusive on them to shift without using the clutch, but hey it's your stuff not mine so have fun.

Just think about how fast those parts have to spin to be in 1st gear at high speeds. In my old Toyota 4x4 I had 223:1 for my lowest gear, and coasting down a slope in 1st gear low low could blow up the clutch disk if you go over just a few mph. I don't remember the exact rpms/mph numbers but well over 30,000rpm at the input shaft was easily attainable.
 
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Old 04-16-2012 | 11:15 PM
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I would have to say that if you are just learning to shift like this you should do it on loose ground and not pavement.
 
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Old 04-16-2012 | 11:50 PM
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^good advice.

I learned on street bikes on the street. Many, many clutchless shifts and never a tranny problem. But why take chances?
 
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Old 04-17-2012 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyTF
That "clunk" is your selector dogs getting hammered on, and it's abusive especially without synchros to help mesh them. It's also abusive on them to shift without using the clutch, but hey it's your stuff not mine so have fun.

Just think about how fast those parts have to spin to be in 1st gear at high speeds. In my old Toyota 4x4 I had 223:1 for my lowest gear, and coasting down a slope in 1st gear low low could blow up the clutch disk if you go over just a few mph. I don't remember the exact rpms/mph numbers but well over 30,000rpm at the input shaft was easily attainable.
The clutch is fully engaged.
 
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Old 04-17-2012 | 01:22 AM
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Kind of feels like there is a little confusion.

The clutch is fully engaged rolling to a stop. If I drop more than one gear with the clutch fully engaged the transmission changing gears is a bit clunky.

If I do as suggested and shift one gear at a time while releasing the clutch between gear changes the shifts are fine.

I may be a rolling speed dependent thing but it does seem like it does not like to be shifted more than one gear regardless of the speed.

I do not shift without first engaging the clutch and shifting is smooth other than what I mentioned.
 

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Old 04-17-2012 | 01:34 AM
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The KLX trans is not nearly as smooth or positive shifting as a Honda.
But,, it seems to be reliable. it just takes some getting use to downshifting a gear at a time while fingering the clutch lever. I sometimes get to a full stop and think i've downshifted to 1st,,, and find i am between a gear or in second.. Def, not a Honda. But,,,,, it works.
 
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Old 04-17-2012 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryC
The KLX trans is not nearly as smooth or positive shifting as a Honda.
But,, it seems to be reliable. it just takes some getting use to downshifting a gear at a time while fingering the clutch lever. I sometimes get to a full stop and think i've downshifted to 1st,,, and find i am between a gear or in second.. Def, not a Honda. But,,,,, it works.
Thanks GaryC. I am sure I will get used to it. I think that its more prevalent on the street since I am trying to keep the revs down so I am cruising at around 4k a lot. That means a lot of down shifting even if I am only going 30mph. If I were on the dirt I would not be in that gear at all. I doubt I would be below about 5k since the power band kicks in and is strongest starting then through maybe 8k. A lot less downshifts going on.

EDIT: Perhaps I should not keep the revs so low and shift a bit less around town. I actually like to be around 5k at an intersection so that I can MOVE if I need to.
 

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Old 04-17-2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stephenmarklay
Kind of feels like there is a little confusion.
No confusion, I was replying to the whole thread.
 
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Old 04-17-2012 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyTF
No confusion, I was replying to the whole thread.

Not to the original question or problem so it was confusing to me.
 


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