Cold starting
#31
12-04-2006, 05:53 PM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 21,060
RE: Cold starting
ORIGINAL: Marty
Just buy a Mikuni TM33 pumper carb. No problem starting with that in place. Twist the throttle and you automatically spray a shot of gas into the intake tract. Works great, don't it Nobrakes?
On the urban myth about holding your hand over the exhaust will pop the head gasket . . . . .
Exhaust is a gas and is very compressible. The old trick was to stick a potato into someone's exhaust and watch them ride away for a short distance and then the bike would stall. They would start it and ride another short distance and then stall once again.
Heck, I've sent the exhaust block off almost across the street when I start the bike up if I forget about taking it out!
Not a problem.
ORIGINAL: deej
To have to take off the seat every time to start it is an inconvenience to say the least. I tried the small space heater about a foot away from the bike with temps around 20 and after just 5 minutes the bike started up as if it had been running already. I tried it on the other bikes and same thing, 5 minutes and they started right up. And I know that's less time than taking off the seat and spraying starting fluid in there, but to me its an easier solution.
To have to take off the seat every time to start it is an inconvenience to say the least. I tried the small space heater about a foot away from the bike with temps around 20 and after just 5 minutes the bike started up as if it had been running already. I tried it on the other bikes and same thing, 5 minutes and they started right up. And I know that's less time than taking off the seat and spraying starting fluid in there, but to me its an easier solution.
Just buy a Mikuni TM33 pumper carb. No problem starting with that in place. Twist the throttle and you automatically spray a shot of gas into the intake tract. Works great, don't it Nobrakes?
On the urban myth about holding your hand over the exhaust will pop the head gasket . . . . .
Exhaust is a gas and is very compressible. The old trick was to stick a potato into someone's exhaust and watch them ride away for a short distance and then the bike would stall. They would start it and ride another short distance and then stall once again.
Heck, I've sent the exhaust block off almost across the street when I start the bike up if I forget about taking it out!
Not a problem.
#32
12-04-2006, 07:28 PM
RE: Cold starting
ORIGINAL: deej
Actually when I was about 16 there was a kid that was a turd to us younger kids, and one day I decided to do just that, put potatoes in his dad's pipes on an old truck, (the dad was a jerk to all of us kids too, and I still regret what I did) Anyway the next day he was tearing apart his engine, I can only imagine it had something to do with the vegetables in the exhaust system. Yes I have forgot to take out the wash plug on my bike, but there is a big difference between that and a potato that was shoved into an engine with 8 times the power of out little thumper. True story.[&:]
Actually when I was about 16 there was a kid that was a turd to us younger kids, and one day I decided to do just that, put potatoes in his dad's pipes on an old truck, (the dad was a jerk to all of us kids too, and I still regret what I did) Anyway the next day he was tearing apart his engine, I can only imagine it had something to do with the vegetables in the exhaust system. Yes I have forgot to take out the wash plug on my bike, but there is a big difference between that and a potato that was shoved into an engine with 8 times the power of out little thumper. True story.[&:]
#33
12-04-2006, 07:58 PM
RE: Cold starting
I finally got my bike started. Thanks for all the advice. I sprayed a little starting fluid down the snorkle and it wouldnt fire. I had to take off the lid and spray it in there. It took forever to fire but I was glad when it did. I left the air box lid off for now but I hope I dont have to take the seat off every time I want to start it this winter. It was a bit warmer today and I think that helped.
Is anyone else riding in the snow? I took my sons KLX125L out yesterday and had a blast. I got soaking wet and only fell once. I rode a short wheelie (dont know how I managed to get it up) through second before I got nervous and put it down. Its nice to have a small bike to do things that I wouldnt do on my bike.
Is anyone else riding in the snow? I took my sons KLX125L out yesterday and had a blast. I got soaking wet and only fell once. I rode a short wheelie (dont know how I managed to get it up) through second before I got nervous and put it down. Its nice to have a small bike to do things that I wouldnt do on my bike.
#34
12-04-2006, 08:51 PM
RE: Cold starting
ORIGINAL: Marty
Just buy a Mikuni TM33 pumper carb. No problem starting with that in place. Twist the throttle and you automatically spray a shot of gas into the intake tract. Works great, don't it Nobrakes?
Just buy a Mikuni TM33 pumper carb. No problem starting with that in place. Twist the throttle and you automatically spray a shot of gas into the intake tract. Works great, don't it Nobrakes?
#35
12-04-2006, 09:01 PM
RE: Cold starting
ORIGINAL: deej
To have to take off the seat every time to start it is an inconvenience to say the least. I tried the small space heater about a foot away from the bike with temps around 20 and after just 5 minutes the bike started up as if it had been running already. I tried it on the other bikes and same thing, 5 minutes and they started right up. And I know that's less time than taking off the seat and spraying starting fluid in there, but to me its an easier solution.
ORIGINAL: Nobrakes
You don't need to remove the filter, just spray a little into the airbox opening. The stuff is pretty volatile though, so heed the warnings w/regard to open flames, sparks, etc. It doesn't take much to get the engine firing.
You don't need to remove the filter, just spray a little into the airbox opening. The stuff is pretty volatile though, so heed the warnings w/regard to open flames, sparks, etc. It doesn't take much to get the engine firing.
To have to take off the seat every time to start it is an inconvenience to say the least. I tried the small space heater about a foot away from the bike with temps around 20 and after just 5 minutes the bike started up as if it had been running already. I tried it on the other bikes and same thing, 5 minutes and they started right up. And I know that's less time than taking off the seat and spraying starting fluid in there, but to me its an easier solution.
Real heat is better for the engine if you are cold starting every day, though, since the oil is also warmed up and will lubricate better.
#36
12-04-2006, 09:34 PM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 21,060
RE: Cold starting
Well maybe you'll get your bike started faster, maybe not. I still think setting up a small heater is easier and as far as the cold temps go better for the engine. I mean my dodge loves it when I plug it in, nice and toasty in the cold mornings, as if its been running for hours. I have a nice little heater that sets up easy, and besides mine will be already warmed up, while yours will be sputtering for a few.
#37
12-04-2006, 10:49 PM
RE: Cold starting
ORIGINAL: deej
Well maybe you'll get your bike started faster, maybe not. I still think setting up a small heater is easier and as far as the cold temps go better for the engine. I mean my dodge loves it when I plug it in, nice and toasty in the cold mornings, as if its been running for hours. I have a nice little heater that sets up easy, and besides mine will be already warmed up, while yours will be sputtering for a few.
Well maybe you'll get your bike started faster, maybe not. I still think setting up a small heater is easier and as far as the cold temps go better for the engine. I mean my dodge loves it when I plug it in, nice and toasty in the cold mornings, as if its been running for hours. I have a nice little heater that sets up easy, and besides mine will be already warmed up, while yours will be sputtering for a few.
#39
12-04-2006, 10:58 PM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 21,060
RE: Cold starting
Oh and in case you didn't notice I put smileys at the end of the post. OK new rule if there are smileys in a post then don't take offense[&:]
#40
12-04-2006, 11:00 PM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 21,060
RE: Cold starting
I didn't say I didn't want to use a small heater for a few minutes, what I said is that I couldn't afford to heat the garage.......there is a big difference. Words are being re-aranged here.