Buying the service manuals
#11
08-21-2006, 05:52 PM
RE: Buying the service manuals
Man, I didnt get the dealer to throw in ****
Never really thought about it to tell you the truth. I got the bike for 4100 plus all the bs charges so I figured I was getting a good deal anyway but no it never accourd to me to try and get them to throw in some freebies....
LV
#12
08-21-2006, 08:48 PM
RE: Buying the service manuals
LordVngr,
The kid working the parts counter at my dealer couldn't tell me which manual is for what. I asked him what the A & P manual is for, he didn't know. I asked is it maybe an "Assembly and Prep" manual? He asked the shop guys, and they didn't know. He went to the service department to find out what they use, and couldn't find a manual that matched my bike. I got tired of waiting and left.
I ordered the manuals from Ron Ayers...
99924-1165-03 is the Service Manual. It cost $53.96. It covers the 250D/E/G from 1993-1996. The front cover says it is for the KLX250R and KLX250.
99924-1240-55 is the Sevice Manual Supplement. It cost $29.71. It covers the 250H/J from 1999-2005. Interestingly enough, all of my paperwork for my KLX250S lists my bike as a KLX250H6. The Service Manual Supplement rear cover shows that the KLX250-H6 was the 2004 model. The 2005 model was the KLX250-H7. The front cover of the supplement manual says it is for the KLX250 D-Tracker.
The manuals are not the best I've ever owned, but they do list special tools, and they have already paid for themselves with a couple of hours of shop time saved at $70 an hour. When I bought my bike, they said the 600mile "check-up" would cost $115. I went to the service department and asked them what do they actually check. The guy at the counter went through his book to "show me" the checklist, but couldn't find one for a KLX250S. He asked the manager, who asked to borrow my owner's manual so he could make a "checklist" for the shop guys. I figured I could check cable/chain tension and look for loose bolts myself. I'll continue to do the maintenance myself, so I'll know it's done right...
The kid working the parts counter at my dealer couldn't tell me which manual is for what. I asked him what the A & P manual is for, he didn't know. I asked is it maybe an "Assembly and Prep" manual? He asked the shop guys, and they didn't know. He went to the service department to find out what they use, and couldn't find a manual that matched my bike. I got tired of waiting and left.
I ordered the manuals from Ron Ayers...
99924-1165-03 is the Service Manual. It cost $53.96. It covers the 250D/E/G from 1993-1996. The front cover says it is for the KLX250R and KLX250.
99924-1240-55 is the Sevice Manual Supplement. It cost $29.71. It covers the 250H/J from 1999-2005. Interestingly enough, all of my paperwork for my KLX250S lists my bike as a KLX250H6. The Service Manual Supplement rear cover shows that the KLX250-H6 was the 2004 model. The 2005 model was the KLX250-H7. The front cover of the supplement manual says it is for the KLX250 D-Tracker.
The manuals are not the best I've ever owned, but they do list special tools, and they have already paid for themselves with a couple of hours of shop time saved at $70 an hour. When I bought my bike, they said the 600mile "check-up" would cost $115. I went to the service department and asked them what do they actually check. The guy at the counter went through his book to "show me" the checklist, but couldn't find one for a KLX250S. He asked the manager, who asked to borrow my owner's manual so he could make a "checklist" for the shop guys. I figured I could check cable/chain tension and look for loose bolts myself. I'll continue to do the maintenance myself, so I'll know it's done right...
#13
08-21-2006, 08:59 PM
RE: Buying the service manuals
ORIGINAL: warski
LordVngr,
The kid working the parts counter at my dealer couldn't tell me which manual is for what. I asked him what the A & P manual is for, he didn't know. I asked is it maybe an "Assembly and Prep" manual? He asked the shop guys, and they didn't know. He went to the service department to find out what they use, and couldn't find a manual that matched my bike. I got tired of waiting and left.
I ordered the manuals from Ron Ayers...
99924-1165-03 is the Service Manual. It cost $53.96. It covers the 250D/E/G from 1993-1996. The front cover says it is for the KLX250R and KLX250.
99924-1240-55 is the Sevice Manual Supplement. It cost $29.71. It covers the 250H/J from 1999-2005. Interestingly enough, all of my paperwork for my KLX250S lists my bike as a KLX250H6. The Service Manual Supplement rear cover shows that the KLX250-H6 was the 2004 model. The 2005 model was the KLX250-H7. The front cover of the supplement manual says it is for the KLX250 D-Tracker.
The manuals are not the best I've ever owned, but they do list special tools, and they have already paid for themselves with a couple of hours of shop time saved at $70 an hour. When I bought my bike, they said the 600mile "check-up" would cost $115. I went to the service department and asked them what do they actually check. The guy at the counter went through his book to "show me" the checklist, but couldn't find one for a KLX250S. He asked the manager, who asked to borrow my owner's manual so he could make a "checklist" for the shop guys. I figured I could check cable/chain tension and look for loose bolts myself. I'll continue to do the maintenance myself, so I'll know it's done right...
LordVngr,
The kid working the parts counter at my dealer couldn't tell me which manual is for what. I asked him what the A & P manual is for, he didn't know. I asked is it maybe an "Assembly and Prep" manual? He asked the shop guys, and they didn't know. He went to the service department to find out what they use, and couldn't find a manual that matched my bike. I got tired of waiting and left.
I ordered the manuals from Ron Ayers...
99924-1165-03 is the Service Manual. It cost $53.96. It covers the 250D/E/G from 1993-1996. The front cover says it is for the KLX250R and KLX250.
99924-1240-55 is the Sevice Manual Supplement. It cost $29.71. It covers the 250H/J from 1999-2005. Interestingly enough, all of my paperwork for my KLX250S lists my bike as a KLX250H6. The Service Manual Supplement rear cover shows that the KLX250-H6 was the 2004 model. The 2005 model was the KLX250-H7. The front cover of the supplement manual says it is for the KLX250 D-Tracker.
The manuals are not the best I've ever owned, but they do list special tools, and they have already paid for themselves with a couple of hours of shop time saved at $70 an hour. When I bought my bike, they said the 600mile "check-up" would cost $115. I went to the service department and asked them what do they actually check. The guy at the counter went through his book to "show me" the checklist, but couldn't find one for a KLX250S. He asked the manager, who asked to borrow my owner's manual so he could make a "checklist" for the shop guys. I figured I could check cable/chain tension and look for loose bolts myself. I'll continue to do the maintenance myself, so I'll know it's done right...
Sounds like you got the right manuals for your bike. I have yet to order the supplement manual. the 99924-1240-55 is Correct But The kawi site Also lists a 99924-1240-56 which might just be a typo on there part but not sure.
Good guess on the A&P manual maybe being for assembly and prep. I'm going to try and find out once I call the dealer here soon. I have often wondered myself why the bike is Sold as a Klx250S But listed in everything else as a Klx250H.
The 600 mile service should be pretty easy to do and most of us should beable to handle it. My only concern is checking and adjusting the valves. The manual says at 3700 miles I believe but other have checked them at 600 and found them off. I may take mine to the dealer for this and just bite the bullet. I'm a pretty good shade tree mechanic but not sure if I want to deal/hassle with trying to check and ajust the valves.
LV
#14
08-21-2006, 09:11 PM
RE: Buying the service manuals
Hey LV, checking the valves is very easy - not bad at all. And if your valves don't need adjusting, you're done. It's a little harder if you do need to adjust, but not too much more so. We only have that one cylinder so its a piece of cake compared to what you'd have to do with a 4 cyl or twin. The only thing that can be mildly annoying is getting the cams correctly times, but if you zip-tie the cam chain to the timing pullies, you can actually move them out of the way far enough to change out the valve shims without affecting the timing. Several of us contributed to a thread a while back that contains descriptions and photos - search for "valve adjust at 3200 miles" or something like that by a16tony.
And if you get through your valve adjust intact, that'll harden you up for even more extended journies inside your engine. How do you think I got up the guts to do my 300cc big bore install?
And if you get through your valve adjust intact, that'll harden you up for even more extended journies inside your engine. How do you think I got up the guts to do my 300cc big bore install?
#15
08-21-2006, 11:06 PM
RE: Buying the service manuals
ORIGINAL: LordVngr
Finally I have noticed that the bike is Sold as a Klx250S and yet my paperwork and other things show it as a Klx250H. Which is it and why the Different Desginations. Seems confusing to me.
Anyway looking to buy the manuals now I need your guys help to know which ones to buy.
Thanks...
LV
Finally I have noticed that the bike is Sold as a Klx250S and yet my paperwork and other things show it as a Klx250H. Which is it and why the Different Desginations. Seems confusing to me.
Anyway looking to buy the manuals now I need your guys help to know which ones to buy.
Thanks...
LV
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