Blew my compressor
#11
07-19-2011, 04:05 PM
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sonoran Desert, Arizona
Posts: 262
Ron
#12
07-19-2011, 04:50 PM
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sonoran Desert, Arizona
Posts: 262
Before you put the 134a in, did you do a complete evac of the entire system. Some people think by pushing in the valve stem is all you have to do. The proper way is to use a pump to clean out the whole system. Then you need to intall 8.5 oz ( average size can )of oil charge with o-ring conditioner before you put in any 134a. Did you put the 134a in with the can up right, or upside down? If you put the entire can in with it upside down, you will seize your compressor as it will get to cold way to fast. The best way is to alternate. I prefer to use Interdynamics because it's very easy to use. I do this on the side and it usually takes about 45-60 min. per car when done right.
The purpose of evacuating the A/C system is not to "clean out the whole system." It is to remove moisture that may be present in the system. It does that by lowering the pressure and allowing the moisture to boil out.
Oil should never be indiscriminately be added to an A/C system. If an A/C recovery machine is used to recover the refrigerant then any oil that is removed is measured and can then replaced. Otherwise you are just guessing.
I'm not going to rat you out, but you should know that the EPA can fine up to $37,500 per day for "pushing in the valve stem" and venting refrigerant to the atmosphere. You probably don't have to worry too much, though. They mostly go after shops. Hopefully, they didn't read your post...
Just so you know, I am MACS (Mobile Air Conditioning Society) certified. MACS certifies professional A/C technicians and A/C equipment repair technicians. Hobbyists can be certified, too.
I own a business here in Arizona. Among other things, we are a factory repair center for almost all of the A/C recovery machine manufacturers in the Unites States.
You might consider going to the MACS website:
MACS | Home
They have training information on how the A/C systems work and how to properly recover, evacuate, and recharge A/C systems.
Ron
#13
07-19-2011, 08:48 PM
@ T_i_G_e_R: I have no comment on AC systems or refrigerant, but since we are off-topic, I’d like to congratulate you on your fine choice of vintage German cars; I LOVE the R107s.
I once owned a 1976 BMW 2002. It was one of the most fun vehicles I have ever driven. It was also extremely well designed & built. It had no AC, but the ‘smoker windows’ more than compensated!
I once owned a 1976 BMW 2002. It was one of the most fun vehicles I have ever driven. It was also extremely well designed & built. It had no AC, but the ‘smoker windows’ more than compensated!
#15
07-20-2011, 02:34 AM
Tiger you should ask your mechanic to check to make sure you didn't blow a seal. I can't look at the thread title without thinking of this joke.
The joke is funny, but the monkeys are 10 times funnier.
Dan
‪Monkey Bar - Penguin Blew A Seal‬‏ - YouTube
The joke is funny, but the monkeys are 10 times funnier.
Dan
‪Monkey Bar - Penguin Blew A Seal‬‏ - YouTube
#16
07-20-2011, 04:23 AM
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Fort Atkinson, WI
Posts: 349
Hmmm. There is a bit of misinformation here.
The purpose of evacuating the A/C system is not to "clean out the whole system." It is to remove moisture that may be present in the system. It does that by lowering the pressure and allowing the moisture to boil out.
Oil should never be indiscriminately be added to an A/C system. If an A/C recovery machine is used to recover the refrigerant then any oil that is removed is measured and can then replaced. Otherwise you are just guessing.
I'm not going to rat you out, but you should know that the EPA can fine up to $37,500 per day for "pushing in the valve stem" and venting refrigerant to the atmosphere. You probably don't have to worry too much, though. They mostly go after shops. Hopefully, they didn't read your post...
Just so you know, I am MACS (Mobile Air Conditioning Society) certified. MACS certifies professional A/C technicians and A/C equipment repair technicians. Hobbyists can be certified, too.
I own a business here in Arizona. Among other things, we are a factory repair center for almost all of the A/C recovery machine manufacturers in the Unites States.
You might consider going to the MACS website:
MACS | Home
They have training information on how the A/C systems work and how to properly recover, evacuate, and recharge A/C systems.
Ron
The purpose of evacuating the A/C system is not to "clean out the whole system." It is to remove moisture that may be present in the system. It does that by lowering the pressure and allowing the moisture to boil out.
Oil should never be indiscriminately be added to an A/C system. If an A/C recovery machine is used to recover the refrigerant then any oil that is removed is measured and can then replaced. Otherwise you are just guessing.
I'm not going to rat you out, but you should know that the EPA can fine up to $37,500 per day for "pushing in the valve stem" and venting refrigerant to the atmosphere. You probably don't have to worry too much, though. They mostly go after shops. Hopefully, they didn't read your post...
Just so you know, I am MACS (Mobile Air Conditioning Society) certified. MACS certifies professional A/C technicians and A/C equipment repair technicians. Hobbyists can be certified, too.
I own a business here in Arizona. Among other things, we are a factory repair center for almost all of the A/C recovery machine manufacturers in the Unites States.
You might consider going to the MACS website:
MACS | Home
They have training information on how the A/C systems work and how to properly recover, evacuate, and recharge A/C systems.
Ron
Last edited by 2007 Green Machine; 07-20-2011 at 04:32 AM.
#17
07-20-2011, 04:27 AM
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Fort Atkinson, WI
Posts: 349
Actually I think he tells everyone he has a chance to - and he's not making any money off it. He likely could if he undertook replacing/repairing the broken systems for big bucks, but he doesn't. The fine print in the packaging might advise to evac, but the way the kit is marketed (as a complete DIY thing that only takes a few minutes in the back yard) is pretty misleading. I'm talking a bit over my head here though, since I have never bought or tried to use one of these kits - and it's been a year or 2 since I was talking to hima bout this. Not sure if the situation is the same in the stores with them or not. Hmm, might have to do some browsing here & see if things have changed.
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