ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
#21
08-03-2007, 12:10 AM
RE: ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
ORIGINAL: ol guy
In this hot weather the higher octane is more likely to deterengine knock isn't it? Especially if your lugging the bike around .
In this hot weather the higher octane is more likely to deterengine knock isn't it? Especially if your lugging the bike around .
Under no circumstances should you lug the bike. It is the worst thing you can do to an engine.
#23
08-03-2007, 12:31 AM
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RE: ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
ORIGINAL: FM_Thumper
That wasn't really my math. I'm going by an article I saw in some magazine a while back where someone conducted an experiment and that was the conclusion they came to. I also read an article in Motorcycle Consumer News that stated the same. Due to the nature of stating only the factand the fact that they accept no advertising, I would think that they would not publish any fraudulent information.
I am no expertbut I did manage a gasstation a long time ago and I don't remember the inner diameter being as small as you state.
Also please don't take it personally but just because someone is inan industry for 6 years does not mean that they are an expert and the final word. I have been in the automotive business for 20 years and ther are plenty of higher up executives that have been in it longer and know nothing aboutcars.
Quite frankly, Iwould like to know the real truth about this myself. I do know thatmy R1150R knows that there are leftover87 octane in those hoses. My R1150 pings like crazy unless I put 93 octane in it. If I go to a one hose station, it always pings.
That wasn't really my math. I'm going by an article I saw in some magazine a while back where someone conducted an experiment and that was the conclusion they came to. I also read an article in Motorcycle Consumer News that stated the same. Due to the nature of stating only the factand the fact that they accept no advertising, I would think that they would not publish any fraudulent information.
I am no expertbut I did manage a gasstation a long time ago and I don't remember the inner diameter being as small as you state.
Also please don't take it personally but just because someone is inan industry for 6 years does not mean that they are an expert and the final word. I have been in the automotive business for 20 years and ther are plenty of higher up executives that have been in it longer and know nothing aboutcars.
Quite frankly, Iwould like to know the real truth about this myself. I do know thatmy R1150R knows that there are leftover87 octane in those hoses. My R1150 pings like crazy unless I put 93 octane in it. If I go to a one hose station, it always pings.
BTW, if your other bike is pinging that bad that it needs 93 you may want to take it to the shop...
#24
08-03-2007, 12:31 AM
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#25
08-03-2007, 12:33 AM
RE: ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
ORIGINAL: klx250s_rider
Gasoline companies generally start with a higher quality base fuel when they blend their high octane fuel.
Gasoline companies generally start with a higher quality base fuel when they blend their high octane fuel.
#26
08-03-2007, 12:35 AM
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RE: ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
I saw it on an episode of Dallas, JR's car was pinging and.... 
#27
08-03-2007, 12:39 AM
RE: ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
ORIGINAL: fireroad
BTW, if your other bike is pinging that bad that it needs 93 you may want to take it to the shop...
BTW, if your other bike is pinging that bad that it needs 93 you may want to take it to the shop...
#28
08-03-2007, 12:43 AM
RE: ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
ORIGINAL: fireroad
No offense taken, I think this is a great arguement.I wanted to know the answer to this questions so I cut straight through the crap and taked to the people that make the gas.Even if my buddy was an idiot, the 1 qt tests are a fact, and their are fines invovled for non-compliance. Unlike your magazine article which ran one test, these are industry standards that are repeated over and over and over again. As for the hose, I said the inside diamater was smaller but by how much I don't know. Regardless, the valve that drains back to the tank (which proably wasn't around a long time ago when you managed a gas station) is the key. Yes, some gas does get through, but between the higher then stated octanes and filling up over 1 qt, you still get what you pay for.
No offense taken, I think this is a great arguement.I wanted to know the answer to this questions so I cut straight through the crap and taked to the people that make the gas.Even if my buddy was an idiot, the 1 qt tests are a fact, and their are fines invovled for non-compliance. Unlike your magazine article which ran one test, these are industry standards that are repeated over and over and over again. As for the hose, I said the inside diamater was smaller but by how much I don't know. Regardless, the valve that drains back to the tank (which proably wasn't around a long time ago when you managed a gas station) is the key. Yes, some gas does get through, but between the higher then stated octanes and filling up over 1 qt, you still get what you pay for.
#29
08-03-2007, 12:50 AM
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Washington
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RE: ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
Yep I had a 93 Toyota 4X4 that always pinged on low grade, sometimes on the mid grade and never on the highest grade. Its ping 101 my friends.
#30
08-03-2007, 01:39 AM
RE: ANSWERS TO THE GAS GRADE QUESTIONS
I was running regular all the time and thought I heard some pinging when it was hot out and working it in the slow tight stuff so I switched to mid grade. Been running that for a few thousand miles. Last month I put in a tank of regular and it ran like sh**. Sounded different, smelled different and lost quite a bit of oomph. Ran that all out in one day and refilled with midgrade and all was normal again. Wether it was truly the octane level, or just the pure quality of the fuel (could have been the bottom of the drum for all I know) it definitely did run different.