41 mpg

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #11  
Old 08-17-2011 | 05:44 PM
Highbeam's Avatar
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 740
From: South Puget Sound, WA
Default

Pretty ridiculous that the big 650s get nearly the same mpg as our featherlight 250s. Plus, they have larger fuel tanks.

I have a 90 mile each way trip planned on Saturday and I don't want to run out.

I've foudn that I hit reserve with much more than 0.5 gallons remaining. I have stalled out, grabbed reserve, and then filled up 10 miles later and only needed 1.3 gallons.
 
  #12  
Old 08-17-2011 | 05:48 PM
EMS_0525's Avatar
Da dirty moderator
1st Gear Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 12,584
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Default

I can go about 250 miles give or take on a tank on the KLR.
 
  #13  
Old 08-17-2011 | 06:27 PM
09'Kawi250s's Avatar
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 396
From: Redding CA
Default

my klx cuts out at 90 miles, so im getting 60 mpg. doesnt matter if im on the freeway or in town it always cuts out within 1 mile of 90 miles
 
  #14  
Old 08-17-2011 | 06:52 PM
go cytocis's Avatar
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 695
Default

In 2008, Top Gear ran the now-classic comparison of fuel economy between a Prius & an M3. On the track, the M3 got 19mpg while the Prius only got 17mpg illustrating that smaller engines aren’t particularly efficient when they are tapped out. Same is true of our little KLXs…
 
  #15  
Old 08-17-2011 | 07:24 PM
Highbeam's Avatar
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 740
From: South Puget Sound, WA
Default

Then there's the theory that a gasoline engine is most efficient at WOT since there is no throttle plate causing pumping losses. I think the high RPMs required for freeway speed is where the poor mpg comes from.

Then there's the thought that all bikes weigh about the same, all have terrible aerodynamics, so it takes a certain amount of fuel to get the bike down the road whether the engine is a 650 or a 250.
 
  #16  
Old 08-17-2011 | 09:07 PM
adr's Avatar
adr
Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 36
Default

Is the odometer correct on the SF ? I've read the speedo was off 10%.

Reason I ask is I went 110 miles on last 3 tanks (1.5 Gallons) before hitting reserve.

73.3 mpg, riding rural roads. 45mph Speed Limit.

2009, 250SF, Dyno Jet kit and FMF
 
  #17  
Old 08-17-2011 | 09:50 PM
Blackheart58's Avatar
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 886
From: Northern Utah
Default

Originally Posted by Highbeam
Then there's the theory that a gasoline engine is most efficient at WOT since there is no throttle plate causing pumping losses.
It depends upon what efficiency is being measured. If we're measuring the work produced by the engine, I can see how WOT might produce more work per unit of fuel burned. Maybe. This kind of measurement of efficiency has a lot to do with workload/heat generation. Again, I'm not sure of the calculations, but, it's a different kind of efficiency than Miles Per Gallon.

But, when you put the engine in the real world, you have stealers of work such as chain drag, bearing drag, tire slippage, and a giant one is air resistance. If you are a bicycle racer, you know that at about 15 mph, air resistance starts to make a difference in how much work it takes to maintain speed. And I believe the resistance is cubed in relation to speed, so, yep, air resistance is a biggee.
 
  #18  
Old 08-17-2011 | 11:14 PM
407guy's Avatar
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 186
Default

Originally Posted by 09'Kawi250s
my klx cuts out at 90 miles, so im getting 60 mpg. doesnt matter if im on the freeway or in town it always cuts out within 1 mile of 90 miles
I'm about that too. It was slightly better before the TBR exhaust and rejet but it hasn't dropped much since. I'm very happy with the results.

I average about 55-60 mpg per fill up. I have just over 1,000 miles on my SF.
 
  #19  
Old 08-17-2011 | 11:51 PM
Highbeam's Avatar
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 740
From: South Puget Sound, WA
Default

Originally Posted by Blackheart58
It depends upon what efficiency is being measured. If we're measuring the work produced by the engine, I can see how WOT might produce more work per unit of fuel burned. Maybe. This kind of measurement of efficiency has a lot to do with workload/heat generation. Again, I'm not sure of the calculations, but, it's a different kind of efficiency than Miles Per Gallon.

But, when you put the engine in the real world, you have stealers of work such as chain drag, bearing drag, tire slippage, and a giant one is air resistance. If you are a bicycle racer, you know that at about 15 mph, air resistance starts to make a difference in how much work it takes to maintain speed. And I believe the resistance is cubed in relation to speed, so, yep, air resistance is a biggee.
The trick is to get WOT while at lower rpms, at peak efficiency rpm, which is not freeway speed rpms on our KLX. This is tough to do but the guys have accomplished it with varible pitch props on airplanes and realized huge fuel savings.

Lower rpms generally get better mpg anyway. This is why trucks have hauling gears like 4.10 or they have highway gears like 3.08s in the rear end. Better mpg with the lower gears (lower cruise rpms) so long as you have enough power to make it.

Maybe the 15 or 16 tooth CS sprockets result in better mpg due to lower rpms and a more open throttle plate.
 
  #20  
Old 08-18-2011 | 12:32 AM
09'Kawi250s's Avatar
Senior Member
1st Gear Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 396
From: Redding CA
Default

Originally Posted by 407guy
I'm about that too. It was slightly better before the TBR exhaust and rejet but it hasn't dropped much since. I'm very happy with the results.

I average about 55-60 mpg per fill up. I have just over 1,000 miles on my SF.
ya same here, but i have 16,200 miles lol
 



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:47 PM.