Help I'm so close, see the video
#1
Help I'm so close, see the video
Hi all, after 3 weeks of working on my new 1990 ZX11C with 6100 on the clock
Everything is stock except for the cam's but I have no way of confirming this.
I feel I'm very close to getting it running minty mint.
Here's what I've done so far.
Rust in the tank, Fixed Por-15, cured 96 hours.
Carbs rebuilt, new float valve, float valve seat/screen, float bowl gasket & o-rings.
Counted 3 turns in on the pilot screws and 3.5 on #3 carb.
2 cans of gumout, my carbs look almost new.
Checked fuel level in the bowls, all in Spec.
Checked for vacuum leaks, boots from the carbs to the heads are good.
Fresh set of nkg's double checked the gaps.
Ohm and gap tested the pickup coil, Ohms were good 380-570.
gap was at 0.5 should have been 0.7, she ran better after this adjustment.
Static tested the coils,
Both primary resistance were @ 3.0 Ohms and are in spec
Both secondary resistance were @ 23,000 +/- 1500 Ohms, should be 12,000-18,000
Checked the timing, left side coil good, right side coil out of time.
Hard to get a steady idle to know for sure.
Half fast synchronized the carbs, got them close.
I tried different adjustments on the pilot screws.
1 1.5 1.3/4 2 2.5 3.0 3.5
Took apart the IC ignitor, contacts were filthy.
I think that's about it.
Before the tear down of the carbs and tank coating
she was very hard to start and would not idle, I had to leave the choke
on 3/4 at the red lights, once I took off I could close the
choke and she would run like a raped ape or at least until the next red light.
Throttle response was boggy for the first second or two after that
I could red line all the way.
Now after all the above she starts with no problem but very boggy on the rev's
and I cant get her to rev even close to red line.
I don't know if you can see it in the video but when I do get her to rev
a fine mist of gas comes out threw the carbs.
I double check everything with the book when I did the carbs.
The plugs are new and only have about a hours time on them but they
look clean, not wet or black but good and clean.
Things I haven't done.
Valve clearance, I don't have the gut's to yank the valve cover off.
I have been looking online at different after market coils and timing modules.
That include a new module with several settings, 2 high output coils @ 3.0 Ohms
and a pick up coil and wire harness.
$400.00 for the module kit and $200.00 for the coils.
My one and only Kawi dealer quoted me $300-$600 for the valve adjustment.
I'm at end of my rope here guys and I have been scouring all the forums,
I've picked up a lot of good stuff but I don't know what to do next.
PLEASE ADVISE !!!
Frankie Zee...
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x98/frankiezee/?action=view¤t=0d7f1698.flv
Everything is stock except for the cam's but I have no way of confirming this.
I feel I'm very close to getting it running minty mint.
Here's what I've done so far.
Rust in the tank, Fixed Por-15, cured 96 hours.
Carbs rebuilt, new float valve, float valve seat/screen, float bowl gasket & o-rings.
Counted 3 turns in on the pilot screws and 3.5 on #3 carb.
2 cans of gumout, my carbs look almost new.
Checked fuel level in the bowls, all in Spec.
Checked for vacuum leaks, boots from the carbs to the heads are good.
Fresh set of nkg's double checked the gaps.
Ohm and gap tested the pickup coil, Ohms were good 380-570.
gap was at 0.5 should have been 0.7, she ran better after this adjustment.
Static tested the coils,
Both primary resistance were @ 3.0 Ohms and are in spec
Both secondary resistance were @ 23,000 +/- 1500 Ohms, should be 12,000-18,000
Checked the timing, left side coil good, right side coil out of time.
Hard to get a steady idle to know for sure.
Half fast synchronized the carbs, got them close.
I tried different adjustments on the pilot screws.
1 1.5 1.3/4 2 2.5 3.0 3.5
Took apart the IC ignitor, contacts were filthy.
I think that's about it.
Before the tear down of the carbs and tank coating
she was very hard to start and would not idle, I had to leave the choke
on 3/4 at the red lights, once I took off I could close the
choke and she would run like a raped ape or at least until the next red light.
Throttle response was boggy for the first second or two after that
I could red line all the way.
Now after all the above she starts with no problem but very boggy on the rev's
and I cant get her to rev even close to red line.
I don't know if you can see it in the video but when I do get her to rev
a fine mist of gas comes out threw the carbs.
I double check everything with the book when I did the carbs.
The plugs are new and only have about a hours time on them but they
look clean, not wet or black but good and clean.
Things I haven't done.
Valve clearance, I don't have the gut's to yank the valve cover off.
I have been looking online at different after market coils and timing modules.
That include a new module with several settings, 2 high output coils @ 3.0 Ohms
and a pick up coil and wire harness.
$400.00 for the module kit and $200.00 for the coils.
My one and only Kawi dealer quoted me $300-$600 for the valve adjustment.
I'm at end of my rope here guys and I have been scouring all the forums,
I've picked up a lot of good stuff but I don't know what to do next.
PLEASE ADVISE !!!
Frankie Zee...
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x98/frankiezee/?action=view¤t=0d7f1698.flv
#3
RE: Help I'm so close, see the video
Thanks for the welcome, I was having problems linking the video to this site, I was linking it when you were viewing it.
It's up and running now.
Thanks in advance for any input.
I don't know what I'd do if it weren't for forums like this.
Frankie Zee...
It's up and running now.
Thanks in advance for any input.
I don't know what I'd do if it weren't for forums like this.
Frankie Zee...
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RE: Help I'm so close, see the video
I have narrowed it down to the same 3 with the exception of the cam timing, forgive me but isn't cam timing related
to the valve timing ? when it come to the inside of any motor my knowledge is basic but I'm learning as I go
Thanks for the replies so far guys, I've had the bike for about a month now and only been on 2 rides.
Before that it was April in Vegas when I rented a Harley for a day, that's when I got the bug to own a bike again.
Before that it was 15 years ago that my butt was on a bike.
I look at it every day sitting in my drive way, calling me, I dropped over a $1000.00 on
helmets, gloves, jacket, parts, tools, insurance, tag and I can't get it to idle.
I can't bring myself to go to the dealer and get reamed.
So PLEASE keep the feedback coming.
Frankie Zee...
to the valve timing ? when it come to the inside of any motor my knowledge is basic but I'm learning as I go
Thanks for the replies so far guys, I've had the bike for about a month now and only been on 2 rides.
Before that it was April in Vegas when I rented a Harley for a day, that's when I got the bug to own a bike again.
Before that it was 15 years ago that my butt was on a bike.
I look at it every day sitting in my drive way, calling me, I dropped over a $1000.00 on
helmets, gloves, jacket, parts, tools, insurance, tag and I can't get it to idle.
I can't bring myself to go to the dealer and get reamed.
So PLEASE keep the feedback coming.
Frankie Zee...
#7
RE: Help I'm so close, see the video
ORIGINAL: hoedogg
try a full carb sync. and i would double check for a vacuum leak. good luck bro.
try a full carb sync. and i would double check for a vacuum leak. good luck bro.
I did it anyway @ 2000 RPM's and got them moving as one.
Still bogging out and can't get it to idle above 850 RPM's without the choke on.
Frankie Zee...