Brake Problems, Help Please.
#1
Brake Problems, Help Please.
I have a problem with braking that seems to be getting worse each time I ride.
Basically it's a severe pulsation while using the front brake at low speeds, it feels like I'm pumping the brakes when in reality I'm holding them steady.
Recently, the brakes have started squealing, and even more recently, I'm getting a "squeak.... squeak...... squeak....." when riding at low speeds (no brake).
I've taken the bike to the shop and the report is that the brake pads are fine, and the rotors show no visible signs of warping. That said, they have not taken the wheel off and done measurements of the rotors yet.
I've been searching a LOT of forums on this problem and the possible causes are daunting.
- Warped rotors?
- Rotors with heat spots?
- Gummed up brake calipers?
- Wheel out of balance?
- Old brake fluid?
- Cracked headstock bearing?
Anyone who has previous experience in this sort of situation, please help... my bike is quickly becoming dangerous to ride
Basically it's a severe pulsation while using the front brake at low speeds, it feels like I'm pumping the brakes when in reality I'm holding them steady.
Recently, the brakes have started squealing, and even more recently, I'm getting a "squeak.... squeak...... squeak....." when riding at low speeds (no brake).
I've taken the bike to the shop and the report is that the brake pads are fine, and the rotors show no visible signs of warping. That said, they have not taken the wheel off and done measurements of the rotors yet.
I've been searching a LOT of forums on this problem and the possible causes are daunting.
- Warped rotors?
- Rotors with heat spots?
- Gummed up brake calipers?
- Wheel out of balance?
- Old brake fluid?
- Cracked headstock bearing?
Anyone who has previous experience in this sort of situation, please help... my bike is quickly becoming dangerous to ride
Last edited by nated066; 09-09-2011 at 01:49 AM.
#3
I agree with Dragone and also could be a warped rotor. What bike is it? Has the bike been laid over at all? I had to drain the brake fluid in the front and rear of my 05 636r. The brakes were gettin mushy. No lever at all. I changed the nasty fluid and that fixed it. Calipers can get gummed up and stick overtime.
#4
Start with the easy stuff. I agree with Drag and Bleed (that sounds weird...sorry.)^
Remove and clean your calipers with soap, water, and gentle toothbrush, around the cups and seals. Make sure the pistons/seals are clean and function smoothly (with fresh brake juice.) Take a (dry) toothbrush-sized brass or stainless brush and clean your brake pad facings. Wear safety glasses; that stuff can be nasty. I would suggest using a light coating of Permatex brake lube around your piston cups and on the backs of the pads, just to help lessen dry part-to-part contact. Remove your front axle and clean/lube the moving parts. Measure the distance between your rotors (stick the rule through the spokes) both INSIDE rotor to rotor, and OUTSIDE rotor to rotor, in 4-5 (i.e. 90 degree) positions, for true-ness. ...and PLEASE use a good quality steel rule; not a Wal Mart yard stick. Buy a good one (Starrett, etc.) if you don't have one. You'll use it the rest of your life. Double check torque on your rotor to hub mounting. Reassemble and torque properly. Also, check your tire alignment front-rear, tire pressures, and fork height in the triple clamp. It may not cause your squeak, but uneven forks can do weird things. If those (inexpensive) suggestions don't work, get back to us.
Gadz: edit..edit. Welcome to the forums, Nated. Glad to have you with us!
Remove and clean your calipers with soap, water, and gentle toothbrush, around the cups and seals. Make sure the pistons/seals are clean and function smoothly (with fresh brake juice.) Take a (dry) toothbrush-sized brass or stainless brush and clean your brake pad facings. Wear safety glasses; that stuff can be nasty. I would suggest using a light coating of Permatex brake lube around your piston cups and on the backs of the pads, just to help lessen dry part-to-part contact. Remove your front axle and clean/lube the moving parts. Measure the distance between your rotors (stick the rule through the spokes) both INSIDE rotor to rotor, and OUTSIDE rotor to rotor, in 4-5 (i.e. 90 degree) positions, for true-ness. ...and PLEASE use a good quality steel rule; not a Wal Mart yard stick. Buy a good one (Starrett, etc.) if you don't have one. You'll use it the rest of your life. Double check torque on your rotor to hub mounting. Reassemble and torque properly. Also, check your tire alignment front-rear, tire pressures, and fork height in the triple clamp. It may not cause your squeak, but uneven forks can do weird things. If those (inexpensive) suggestions don't work, get back to us.
Gadz: edit..edit. Welcome to the forums, Nated. Glad to have you with us!
Last edited by jeffzx9; 09-09-2011 at 02:59 PM.
#6
Start with the easy stuff. I agree with Drag and Bleed (that sounds weird...sorry.)^
Remove and clean your calipers with soap, water, and gentle toothbrush, around the cups and seals. Make sure the pistons/seals are clean and function smoothly (with fresh brake juice.) Take a (dry) toothbrush-sized brass or stainless brush and clean your brake pad facings. Wear safety glasses; that stuff can be nasty. I would suggest using a light coating of Permatex brake lube around your piston cups and on the backs of the pads, just to help lessen dry part-to-part contact. Remove your front axle and clean/lube the moving parts. Measure the distance between your rotors (stick the rule through the spokes) both INSIDE rotor to rotor, and OUTSIDE rotor to rotor, in 4-5 (i.e. 90 degree) positions, for true-ness. ...and PLEASE use a good quality steel rule; not a Wal Mart yard stick. Buy a good one (Starrett, etc.) if you don't have one. You'll use it the rest of your life. Double check torque on your rotor to hub mounting. Reassemble and torque properly. Also, check your tire alignment front-rear, tire pressures, and fork height in the triple clamp. It may not cause your squeak, but uneven forks can do weird things. If those (inexpensive) suggestions don't work, get back to us.
Gadz: edit..edit. Welcome to the forums, Nated. Glad to have you with us!
Remove and clean your calipers with soap, water, and gentle toothbrush, around the cups and seals. Make sure the pistons/seals are clean and function smoothly (with fresh brake juice.) Take a (dry) toothbrush-sized brass or stainless brush and clean your brake pad facings. Wear safety glasses; that stuff can be nasty. I would suggest using a light coating of Permatex brake lube around your piston cups and on the backs of the pads, just to help lessen dry part-to-part contact. Remove your front axle and clean/lube the moving parts. Measure the distance between your rotors (stick the rule through the spokes) both INSIDE rotor to rotor, and OUTSIDE rotor to rotor, in 4-5 (i.e. 90 degree) positions, for true-ness. ...and PLEASE use a good quality steel rule; not a Wal Mart yard stick. Buy a good one (Starrett, etc.) if you don't have one. You'll use it the rest of your life. Double check torque on your rotor to hub mounting. Reassemble and torque properly. Also, check your tire alignment front-rear, tire pressures, and fork height in the triple clamp. It may not cause your squeak, but uneven forks can do weird things. If those (inexpensive) suggestions don't work, get back to us.
Gadz: edit..edit. Welcome to the forums, Nated. Glad to have you with us!
#7
Progress Report
Hi guys, just thought I'd check back in with a quick progress report.
I didn't have the correct tool to tighten the front axle, so I thought I'd start with some of the other suggestions. Here's what I did:
- Bled the front brakes and replaced the fluid with fresh brake juice.
- Lightly sanded the rotors with a fine grit sandpaper
- Cleaned the calipers with a wire brush
- Applied Permatex Disc Brake Quiet
After a short test ride, the problem did not present itself, so I'm cautiously optimistic. Thanks for the advice and suggestions. I will check back in after a much longer ride!
Nathan
Hi guys, just thought I'd check back in with a quick progress report.
I didn't have the correct tool to tighten the front axle, so I thought I'd start with some of the other suggestions. Here's what I did:
- Bled the front brakes and replaced the fluid with fresh brake juice.
- Lightly sanded the rotors with a fine grit sandpaper
- Cleaned the calipers with a wire brush
- Applied Permatex Disc Brake Quiet
After a short test ride, the problem did not present itself, so I'm cautiously optimistic. Thanks for the advice and suggestions. I will check back in after a much longer ride!
Nathan
#8
Update #2
After a much longer ride the problem appears to be gone. Thanks for the help everyone.
I'm not sure which step did it, but if anyone else has a similar problem do what these guys said, start with the simple stuff (cleaning and maintenance) and work your way up.
Safe riding
Nathan
After a much longer ride the problem appears to be gone. Thanks for the help everyone.
I'm not sure which step did it, but if anyone else has a similar problem do what these guys said, start with the simple stuff (cleaning and maintenance) and work your way up.
Safe riding
Nathan
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